Four-star general, david petraeus. and former national security advisor, tom donilon. >> i think the plan is to lay out what's clear. >> we should communicate to individuals in moscow that life is going to be very, very tough for you if you go into ukraine. you may be able to get -- you may even push the government out of kyiv but at the end of the day, we're going to make life hell for you if that's the case and with some experience as a counterinsurgent, we'll tell them what you have is not enough. this is what we invaded iraq with. it's nowhere near enough for a country with multiples the s...