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experience to this is a ga and this country, than andrew coin. he's political columnist. he's written for a magazine and a newspaper. he join us live from torontoment usually we have much more fun things to discuss, andrew. but we're going to discuss something embarrassing and serious. and that is the mayor of the city where you live. where is this going ultimately? >> nowhere fast. i mean, the council as you heard is slowly stripping away the mayor's powers. you would think that would end it and he would give up. but this guy never gives up and never realizes when he's beat. in theory, this can go on for weeks or months unless we get some sort of intervention from the province or otherwise. >> as i was listening to one of his fellow councilors who has brought motions against him