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The woman is down on the ground. she's selfless, defenseless. she's putting her arms up above her head. she's clearly not flailing her arms or kicking and resisting, so i think the officer is going to have a hard time coming out from under on this one. >> but carmen and i, we have both seen this in court where mentally ill people have almost superhuman strength. so you may see a woman as tiny as carmen is being held down by nine, ten corrections officers or court officers because, rev, that is what happens when you are mentally ill. so maybe we missed that part. >> seriously, nine or ten peopl...

Spousal support? what was the judge thinking? >> the reality based on the law, the mother's attorney better start moving quickly to file a motion to substitute that judge or get a different judge because that judge will give more money to the man when he gets out of prison and that mother's lawyer better inform her to file a tort action to try to get a judgment. >> to get that money. >> the law in california said that in an attempted murder case that the spouse who is convicted of attempted murder of the husband or wife, does not have to pay spousal support. this is a violent felony close to a...