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Different. >> phillip, you get the final word. >> i think that is exactly right and i think it is important to remember that what the "new york times" editorial board took away from meeting with donald trump is they considered his perspective on the issues to be thinly throughout through. donald trump has held literally every position on climate change through the decade. this is not core to who he was worried about as a businessman. not a forefront of what he's worried about right now. things he said on the campaign trail that were very effective at rhetoric. not necessarily things he's going...

About comey -- >> you have said anything good about him in the past couple of weeks? >> james comey got on my radar when he did not want to sign something. >> it speaks to his character. >> he got word that some of cheney's people would get ashcroft to sign off on a torture thing or something like that and he was in a hospital bedpost operation, and comey t literally, and ran and got in a cap before the vice president's people and stopped them from getting his signature, and that was comey that did it, and i don't believe you can say he is partisan, and i think you can discuss his judgment whi...

Making that the senator once released now. >> if the senate can declassify this report, we will be able to ensure that an unamerican brutal program of detention and interrogation will never again be considered or permitted. >> joining me right now is ron suskind, pulitzer prize winning author of four books on presidential power, including the bush/cheney administration. his upcoming book "life animated" is about the unique and remarkable way his autistic son has learned to communicate. and joe conason. good luck on the book. it sounds like a very important book for us all to learn about. let m...

Senator feinstein said were chilling and far worse than told by the cia. that's when the intelligence committee voted 14-1 to conduct a comprehensive review of the cia's detention and interrogation program. it does not report years in the making that the senator once released now. >> if the senate can declassify this report, we will be able to ensure that an unamerican brutal program of detention and interrogation will never again be considered or permitted. >> joining me right now is ron suskind, pulitzer prize winning author of four books on presidential power, including the bush/cheney admi...

In the 70s. >> that's the point. a lot of people who make these decisions this is not the united states senate. these are like basically out-of-worked actors with political ageneral does trying to force them on the rest of the country. we should take these decisions with a grain of salt. >> first of all talk about the torture thing is waterboarding really torture? the reason you vote for a picture is the artistic quality of the picture. not the content in it, right? >> you would think. not only that it's a movie. it has said that its based on real events. many movies are it's not a documentary...