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How? >> essentially 5-1-3. the five conservatives to his hard right all want to do away completely with roe even though, john, as you remember, this case was supposed to be only about whether the mississippi ban on abortion to 15 weeks is constitutional. the five to his right go further. he's by himself, i want to uphold the mississippi law but i don't want to touch roe. so he's trying to pick off someone from that right swing. brett kavanaugh is his most likely target, also newest conservative justice amy coney barrett. he's working them, working them. this has the result of giving liberals s...

After the roe v. wade decision it wasn't a rush to make a political issue. it was a turning in the 18980s with the reagan administration. before that it was some political strategist looking for a way to bring in votes, the evangelicals and they looked at abortion and said this is something that will galvanize a religious voter and it became at this point something that was we saw more and more as planks in the different party platforms and as we see now in this administration in the republican planks that are pro-life have become even more entrenched. >> and extreme. >> yeah. >> bill, it woul...