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Obama tilting the scale. we know that joe biden worked with president obama. that is part of biden's rich legacy and his qualifications. the question for democratic voters, and it's a tough one, do you want to go with the steady hand and experience of someone like joe biden or do you go with the youthful energy and the vision, someone like a mayor pete or elizabeth warren, someone who is asking to bring transformational change. democrats are blessed with a lot of qualified voters who all share the same core values when it comes to a fair tax plan, immigration, gun control and so forth. they're...

Often what is criticized in the campaign is what winds up being most practical in governance, which the old expression, you can't paint in poetry, you govern in prose. that works in policy. are you worried if the democrats buy into in their nominee an idea of revolutionary thought and transitional change, that it's not what the party really wants, which is a return to normal and things that they understand. >> i mean i get it. the fact is our economy is transforming in fundamental ways before our eyes, and it's very, very hard to keep pace. and it's very natural and human for us all to try and...

Out this weekend. are you going to cause your support to turn to war? >> obviously, there are a lot of similarities between their plans and productivity. he was very polite. he drew a very clear distinction. i wanted to play it for you. >> there are differences between elizabeth and myself, elizabeth said she is a capitalist through her bones. i am the only candidate who will say to the ruling class, the corporate, enough with your greed and with your corruption. we need real change in this country. >> is that going to keep people loyal? >> i think so. i this they bernie has to do what you sai...

In the field. a guy nobody knew with a name you couldn't pronounce came from a -- >> an out gay man. >> yeah. >> he's not so skinny. skinny kid with a funny name. you know what i mean -- >> yeah. >> i'm not saying -- >> probably nobody more different from donald trump than pete buttigieg. >> having said that he speaks about things in different ways. you heard what mark said. i'm wondering if this primary race is going to come down to whether people want someone who is a safe bet or do they want someone who is ready for transformational -- who's going to push transformational change. i have no ...

Buttigieg and you have the money to get yourself through february when voting starts, you don't have to win iowa to pick up steam. i think we have to think about iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada and super tuesday. so i still think there's a lot of volatility in this race, because i think anybody could have a breakout moment in the debate in september, or october. anybody could falter, and biden has stayed very much in the lead in part because i think people just want calm to some degree. it's unclear if people really want the kind of transformational change that elizabeth warren ...