Express some things. they don't have to deliberate as much. there are smart jurors. >> shepard: in the end there was so much to plod through. she was on the stand for 18 days. i've been covering trials for 25 years. i've never seen anything like that. what a witness. >> right. the thing i've been saying, at least at the time, she had 11 days of direct, 7 days of cross-examination. she sat five to ten feet from the jury. very difficult to kill someone who has been that intimate with you, chatting with you. and some juror questions referred to her at jodi, an indication they're not going to kill...