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It is grounded, it is as grounded as the argument with the first amendment protects his commission of crimes. neither of these things make sense, discovery and protective orders are about, as joey said, giving the information to the defense so that they can prepare their case. it is not about letting him speak publicly about the evidence, about looking happen witnesses. i mean one of the things the judge is going to have to weigh here is the possible intimidation of witnesses, the impeachment upon the integrity of proceedings, the privacy of witnesses, their safety. we've had lots of instances...

Big is the difference between these two positions, and where do you expect the judge to come down? >> as a practical matter, the difference is modest. but as a philosophical matter, it is enormous. and it is for the reasons andrew says. we go to great care and expanse to have a trial process that is fair, under certain rules, the way evidence is used, the way witnesses come in, the way jurors are hopefully impartial at the beginning, and the mindset that trump and lauro are advocating for openly is exactly whether it's in small measure or large measure, to be able to pick and choose. and that'...

Mr khan's arrest is unrelated to the forthcoming elections. here's the country's information minister speaking on pakistani television. translation: if anyone has this question in mind, - as to whether imran khan has been arrested for political reasons, and such a narrative is being created, they should know that the court's detailed verdict comes at the end of 14 or 15 months of trial process. the information secretary for the pti, raoof hasan, explained what the party would do next. basically it's a legal battle now. we have already moved our petition to the islamabad high court and we are r...

To produce before the court, the case would have been entirely different. even now, nothing incriminating was put to imran khan. no offence whatsoever was alleged to him that, "you have violated such and such provision of law." the pakistani government says mr khan's arrest is unrelated to the forthcoming elections. here's the country's information minister speaking on pakistani television. translation: if anyone has this question in mind, - as to whether imran khan has been arrested for political reasons, and such a narrative is being created, they should know that the court's detailed verdic...

What's your take on the unprecedented aspect of the potential of donald trump going through a trial process, possibly convicted, as he noted today, i'm still going to run. i'm still going to try to serve as president. what does that say about the tension that could exist in this country and the stress it could press on the constitution, given that you've got this candidate running the way he's running, with all of these indictments and likely could wind up winning? >> we should ignore all of that. the system of our rule of law has to go forward. we can't decide whether to indict and try people...