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Blood on his hands. josh hawley saying he wants the president to resign. we are reminded that he tweeted -- and end america's forever war. what about all of these republicans demanding the resignation of the president of the united states? well, it is reprehensible and indefensible, brian. particularly when you think about precedent. i don't recall those voices when ronald reagan pulled out of beirut after marines were blown up then. or the bay of pigs from kennedy, or after 9/11 with george w. bush. and it just shows -- i mean, this is a time when we should be grieving and uniting. by the way...

Foremost, this is a humanitarian crisis and a tragedy. september one, the white house would hope that we are all saying that the last americans are out of the country and that most, if not all, of our afghan allies are as well. and that the last week plus of the evacuation went by largely without incident. because that is the fear, here today, of, course was a tragedy. it might not be the last one. there has been a lot of intelligence that u.s. officials have received in recent days according to senior aides that i have spoken. to the point to, they are perhaps more attacks like this in the et...

The news media, get stuff from constantly, big stuff, small stuff. we got an overblown sense of the destruction of norms under donald trump's thinking, every one of them would be certain political suicide. is it possible that even with today's tragedy for sticking with his convictions, for speaking forthrightly, for seeing the mission as he does, and let's hope seeing it through, the consequences politically, and it seems uncomfortable to have such a naked lead political discussion on this very day, the consequences politically for biden could be minimal? >> that's true brian. it's hard to ima...

The different in to -- airports were given up, how this perimeter was set up, i think those are big questions and that the president will have to contend with. even though he is hardened by his decision. i have been talking to veterans as well as people who are trying to get out of afghanistan, and they are all sort of scratching their heads as to how this was executed. so that is still going to be a big question that the president is going to have to continuously answer while he is sticks to the idea that he made the right decision >> jonathan lemire, if the planets are in line, the saints ar...

Again biden appeared willing to own his part of this. >> that's right. and certainly president biden has not been shy, brian, to walk away from other agreements and deals that president trump made. this is one he honored, yes delayed, and certainly there is some truth to what he just said there. the taliban curbed their attacks against americans because of the steal, because they realize that the u.s. was leaving. they are certainly plans from trump himself, including on another cable network, those interviews, who want to portray him as far tougher in afghanistan. far tougher with the taliban...