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Well yesterday. the d.c. press said he out-witted lawmakers. folks in silicon valley are a little more skeptical about his performance. and interesting switch, but he's holding up well under questioning, but you know, to the point of to what end? i think the bigger problem here is there's still a huge trust gap between the tech platforms and lawmakers and i don't think any of today or yesterday is really going to change the big picture regulation that's eventually coming down the pike. >> that's the question, too. whether from these hearings or in general. i sensed a pretty big shift in attitu...

Yo-jong ran the country when kim jong-il was ill. >> your piece touched on this. but to press further the mix of opinion, what is the prevailing perception of the sister of the leader of north korea? is there a trust gap? is there a sense of optimism, which is more prevalent? >> there's definitely, george, some anger about the sister of a leader that many perceive as a leader of an enemy country to be here. this the conservative view that there should be no engagement. there's the other view, where we are now, having the discussions, no matter where they end up, is preferable, to when there wa...

Sides here. the south korean approach to what is happening at this point, which is opening its arms to north korea, and this delegation. and then the united states approach, which is to ignore the delegation, and to continue to stress that sanctions and pressure is the way to go forward. george? >> paula, thank you for the reporting. and of course we'll stay in touch with you there. let's get some context now on this with gene lee a generalist and global fellow at the wilson center joining lunch this hour from seoul, south korea. it's good to have you there. the first question i'd like to ask ...

>> so, paula, a little context here. south korea certainly a robust democracy. that point proven, given the controversy around its previous president. now, with this particular president, who has been focused more on engagement with north korea, what is the general sentiment about what's happening here? seeing south korean officials try to have more interaction with north korea? is there a trust gap? >> there's two very different views. there are some that believe that this is a good thing. that given the tensions we saw just last year, just a few months ago, that engagement is absolutely nece...

Later on. >> so david, how likely is it do you think that they will reach the necessary 60 votes when they decide this at noon monday? >> i think the likelihood of an agreement at noon monday is slim only because of the reporting that you folks mentioned earlier, the two sources, the staffers i think on the democratic side saying that it's unlikely that that number gets reached. >> let's talk about the u.s. president again. we've seen him change his position from time to time throughout the course of this entire debate. the question now, do republicans know where he stands on this issue? and h...