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In mike pence, you have essentially during the campaign we talked how trump was the anti-obama. in many ways pence is the anti-trump. you don't get into this stage of politics without having a healthy ego. he has an unassuming air about him, very well respected on capitol hill. he's a movement conservative. democrats don't agree with him much but they like him, too. we won't know till 100 days in or more what his influence with the president is. at the moment, he has an important role in large part because trump trusts him and doesn't know congress. i talked to a republican senator who said of...

An incredibly important role. i talked to a republican senator last night who said of mike pence, he's one of us. he's a true conservative. donald trump is donald trump. i don't think it was meant as critically as it sounds when you stay, but a lot of people on capitol hill don't know trump. will he listen to democrats? will he go back to some of his prior democratic tendencies? or will he be one of them, but they do trust pence. >> one thing i was going to say, anderson, these relationships between presidents and vice presidents kind of ebb and flow. this, the white house is a really small pl...