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He is reaching out and having direct talks with people. this is huge for leaders up on capitol hill because even if maybe it doesn't work this go-round with this measure, going forward those members in the freedom caucus will start to feel more included and help to heal these fissures that have been damaging to the republican conference. >> is donald trump, sean, the person that can actually. >> he has not decided wer to call it trump care. it is at this point, if you will, ryan care. does that show us that he is not fully in? if he were to be in, he could swing it over? >> well, if he can't b...

>> congresswoman maxine waters in characteristic style pulled no bunches on his budget in an interview they will wreak havoc. the representative is learning that donald trump who said he is 100% on board and i tried to call it ryan care, but it's trump-ryan care, he is talking about the changes that are work requirements for medicaid recipients who are the working poor. making medicare treat more. they want the block grants to medicate limited and want no more ability to do the expansion. they are trying to make it crueller. how do they justify that on the other side of the aisle? >> the first...

Had about the affordable care act is turning out to be true about trump/ryan care. >> michael, i want to turn to you. there are people out there, small business owners and people who saw their premiums go up recently, who would disagree with that assessment. what's your reaction? >> of course. the problem with the affordable care act is that it's not affordable. you're seeing rising costs across the country. you're seeing coverage without access to care. as our previous guest talked about a little bit. people are having, you know, coverage from medicaid when they can't find a provider that wil...

In some ways he attracts criticism that house republicans would be getting and based on that conversation, it seems there's comfort with that. a bit of gratefulness that they are a little out of the spotlight. >> professor, one question on health care because cnn estimates 20 or 21 republicans are set against the republican health care bill to repeal and replace obamacare. politico says the president may make a statement, we need to get behind this bill and get this through. where do you see things right now? >> well, the ryan care bill is obviously in trouble. there are defectors from all sor...

Stir their economic engine. >> or to stir literally pots. >> i don't think so. >> they're looking for young people to take care of older people. >> that's right, if you look in terms of social security the. >> no, it's mean meaning actually cook. >> i think it's a similar thing in response to what eric was saying, you have to worry that the other side punches back and say you guys want a trade war? >> no one wants a trade war with us. >> we're so powerful. >> we're the most powerful on the planet. if you look at bmw, they employ americans and export. >> a jer man car built in america exported ...