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Could say more normal, more traditional. that s fine. but the hype machine is not going to work with a politician like joe biden and rather than doing comparisons, trump versus biden on style, it should be as i mentioned in my previous answer on substance and results. howie: the next day the new york times had a headline praising biden for his stubborn optimism and the washington post praised him for his strategy of pessimism. that clears that up, clarence. i don t know. it didn t seem to matter that the president and his own people were tamping down expectations. tv wanted drama. it was almost a sense of deflation when the meetings were relatively short. howard, maybe i m an i am an old man. i remember when this was normal. you didn t expect the president to give you a lot of international drama each time he stepped up at the podium. instead you got what joe biden ....