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And maybe that's how he is really defending christmas, embracing the season by being the biggest snowflake in america. back with me is jason johnson and david frum. david, how does this whole thing work? and why won't it go away? >> well, look, i'm a double target in the war on christmas because not only am i jewish and not a christian and not an observer of the christmas holiday, but i grew up in canada where people are as likely to say happy christmas as merry christmas. so it's a two-front war. your point about the president's need for congratulations is very powerful. the ugliest manifesta...

>> thank you, president trump for letting us say merry christmas again. >> maybe donald trump really does need those thank yous. maybe without that effusive purchased praise, he gets emotional or hurt or even offended. and maybe that's how he is really defending christmas, embracing the season by being the biggest snowflake in america. back with me is jason johnson and david frum. david, how does this whole thing work? and why won't it go away? >> well, look, i'm a double target in the war on christmas because not only am i jewish and not a christian and not an observer of the christmas holida...

>> very true. can i ask you about your thoughts on the developments in the russia investigation, as we keep a close eye here on air force one which will take off shortly. do you think bob mueller is focusing more on the cover-up or the crime at this point? >> knowing him he's fighting a two-front war. he's got tremendous steadfastness. it is clear to me that he is moving in a very systematic manner. this week they basically released the information they cut a deal with george papadopoulos who had pled himself out for a zero to six-month sentence. probably play tennis somewhere at worst. so he'...

Reopen -- rip the scab off the iranian nuclear deal and get them building nuclear weapons again. it's like he wants a two-front war. it's crazy. >> because the president has always talked about unpredictability, but there can be a problem and a miscalculation, you want the north koreans, the iranians to know what they can expect from the president, from the white house. and when you have a president who's tweeting one thing, who's undercutting his secretary of state and the u.n. ambassador, that creates a problem in which what can these actor who is may be irrational, what can they expect from...

Work that they're doing. look -- >> apparently what they're doing is praising the president. >> i respect your ability to have a difference of opinion. but on our side of the aisle, we just disagree with you. >> i think -- >> let me just say, my issue is not with the cabinet meeting. this is what they have to do all the time. they can't do any work for anybody, because everything is about what is the president's mood today. that's not a stable leadership strategy. >> they put up a number of accomplishments. i think they're doing some great things. heck, they're doing good stuff, tech coming up...