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Here. the next question i have for you is very straightforward. for people watching who say, well, if mick mulvaney comes out and gives a long press conference about the details of this, ukraine, bribery, quid pro quo, we do it all the time, why would he or others be able to then say to congress, this stuff is so privileged ai can't talk o you about it? >> the mulvaney two-step is like the trump two-step. they talk about this stuff and blab about it in front of a national audience and then say it's covered by confidentiality and executive privilege. these claims are totally made up and no resp...

People who apologize. he doesn't like his aides to apologize. the few instances i can think of when advisers publicly said they might have done something better, that they had some regrets about something, it worked against them with this president. >> yeah. >> i don't know if that's what his motivation was, but certainly he must be aware of that, having served in this administration for a while. apologies don't go over very well in the oval office. >> i guess that's the truth. anyway, president trump has made a habit of defending his cabinet secretaries before having them walk the plank. it's...

>> it is. it depends on the circumstance a lot of times the two-step comes after somebody does something like in bannon's case that trump was angry about. sometimes they defend him. he defended michael flynn for a long time. acosta so far is doing what he thinks the president wants him to do. we will see if he continues to do that and as peter said, if that will be enough for the president. >> well, he left today with some ballyhoo for the economy. i think he was doing his best to throw a doys the president. anyway, thank you, kimberly. thank you kimberly at tins, berit berger, peter baker. ...

Overlooking this, internally inside her own party. she is clearly trying to appease the left which wants to proceed with impeachment against trump and obvious there are a lot of moderates in her caucus who are telling her, this is going to hurt us in two years if we go down this road. so she is trying to play both ends against the middle which she cannot make up her mind that she will actually do business with president trump or not. >> kate is that the case which is made up her mind or maybe she has made up her mind that she will continue to do this straddle. what do you think your strategy i...

Populist in the u.s. that's you and me, met a psychological and political yearning to be told what to do, where with to whereo go, where to live and have their press stifled and so be given one version of reality. translation, we're all still stupid and deplorable. so folks, there has been no revelation. she hasn't seen the light it is pure political calculus and more than a flip follow it is classic clinton two-step. she simply wants to boost her base. the woman is simply desperate. there's even talk of a 2020 run. hillary, the only place you need to run is back into the woods. and that's my ...