MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show December 7, 2021 02:46:00
I want to underscore that. 100 times. there was no reason for this build up. there is no threat of ukraine trying to take back the area by force. the prospect of ukraine joining nato should be measured in decades not years. he created this crisis but in times of crisis leaders need to talk. so i support the idea of talking. i would like to see more coercive diplomacy ahead of the calls, rachel. not after them. but i think they have to talk and i hope it leads to some kind of defusion of this moment. >> do you have a sense as to whether or not putin is trying to create the appearance of a crisi...