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I am an american but an undocumented american. >> tonya makes a very powerful case but this is the question. if the united states says we're going to let all these people go visit their families, many of them may not return back to the border or take all of these kids. aren't you sending a message everybody can come? and that may not be realistic for this country to let everybody come in. >> well, the message -- erin, we are a country of laws but also a country of morality, right? we have to figure out a way that we can humanely have a process to let people see their family. you know, it's rea...
And the problem is we should be putting enforcement first, period, and not talking about any kind of waving the wand for anybody else here. that's not a priority and shouldn't be for the federal government. >> michelle, you called it shamnessty. does the at style exchange reflect the sentiment saying, let's not call these people illegal anymore because they're not going to be illegal, just undocumented now, soon to be documented. >> yeah, well, what i see is a white washing, not only of our language but of our laws. language is leverage, and for these people it's become very clear that what th...
I think this whole thing -- you're seeing a bit of, as you said, you know, the play out we're going to see all during the fall of a fight over whether it's women's rights or religious freedom. they're going to find ways to do this battle, i think, until november at least. >> john, over the past few days we've seen the border crisis issue grow to include jose antonio vargas, the famous undocumented american/journalist who went down to texas to report on the border crisis and then ended up himself detained because he's an undocumented american. he was almost immediately released, though. a day a...