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President four years ago and who have been going back and forth for the last year and a half over things they thought that the president would do that this administration would accomplish that have not happened. so they're sort of disappointed in this presidency. so you come to the debate. last week. and they look at romney and they go, oh. a guy like that couldn't have killed a steelworker's wife. you remember that ad they put on. and you take their level of disappointment with now their astonishment at the president's performance, and they are now in play. that, i think, is the biggest dange...

It ties up bain. it ties up massachusetts. it also ties up every faux pas that romney committed that made him seem like thurston hall iii and gordon gekko, out of touch wealthy guy, the tax returns, all of that. they want to make that all one big bundle of disqualification for swing voters, for those voter who is are the 8% or 10% in the eight or nine states who are going to matter, who are uncertain about the president. in an economy like this, especially if it gets rattled again by a european fiasco. if the job numbers are poor over the next few months, they must disqualify romney. they must...

Just talking about. it ties up everything. it ties up bain. it ties up massachusetts. it also ties up every faux pas that romney committed that made him seem like thurston hall iii and gordon gekko, out of touch wealthy guy, the tax returns, all of that. they want to make that all one big bundle of disqualification for swing voters, for those voter who is are the 8 or 10% in the eight or nine states who are going to matter, who are uncertain about the president. in an economy like this, especially if it gets rattled again by a european fiasco. if the job numbers are poor over the next few mont...

>> it's about jobs and paying the bills. k.t. is right. when people go to the ballot box they are going to vote their wallet. do i have job. >> arthel: k.t. brought up bain and president obama is bringing criticism which governor romney co-founded but he is taking heat from not only from republicans but also democrats. corey booker the mayor he pitting themselves against capitalism. >> capitalism and socialism who are people going to vote that. if you saw that corey booker interview. when he was talking and making the statements he was leaning forward and engaged. then when he recanted what he...

Comes up with. >> before you respond, look at the chart. if we look at the facts, we'll have different opinions, the facts are if you go through the companies, company after company, bain made huge profits while people lost jobs. ampat 385 jobs lost, profit $100 million. >> gs industries, 750 jobs lost, $12 million. ddi, 2100, $52 3 million. mr. romney is the one that brought up bain, he does not run on being governor of massachusetts. he brought it up saying he was a job creator. we have the obligation to see if that is the case. i just showed you the facts. >> you showed me some of the