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today. we talked about accountability. giuliani and santos back in court. different cases, both about lies. coming up. and an exclusive interview with a wall street billionaire who's making waves tonight on msnbc. this will air for the first time. we're going to show you a preview of how this semiconservative billionaire who's even met with trump at the white house is telling us on the beat and this is exclusive, this is what he thinks about trump and the possibility of a second term. >> trump is a disgusting human being, he belongs in jail in my opinion. >> strong words. more contex...

Voters in michigan and pennsylvania with the vegan thing. i don't know how well that's going to go over. but he's trying to identify himself before he is identified. i mean, that's sort of the game when it comes to politics and stand out. but looking at all the candidates i don't think we should overlook this vanilla thing. i mean, at a time where we have a president who's advancing policies you said the wall is the embodiment of his racist policies. if we have a sea of white males coming out to combat him i'm not sure how well that will go. >> that's -- >> it's primarily. >> but if we're -- >...

To put down $3,000. >> that changes your perspective when you don't put as much down up front. when we were younger and our parent were around, 20% down, a vanilla thing. end of story. >> they didn't have the recession that we do. >> neil: right. you think that is setting the seed for another crisis. >> it's the government foolishly and recklessly risk taxpayer dollars. it's not as bad as giving one to uaw workers in chrysler and regime. this was a decision made by people that don't know basic economics. >> neil: you're not buying in this particular building. >> they wouldn't have me. they wou...