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I want to bring in my power panel. ari fleischer, former white house press secretary for president george w. bush. he has seen a lot of interviews at this level. and a fox news contributor, as well. adrienne elrod, former director of strategic munication's for the hillary clinton campaign. judy miller, pulitzer prize winning journalist and author, and a fox news contributor. so, i have to say -- i heard some words that i didn't ask mcteer today. first of all, that favor. letting someone into your inner circle with that much access, ari fleischer. based on sitting on a committee and asking for ...

Performance on the economy, people are unnerved by these allegations of criminal behavior on the part of the president. they are unnerved by the tweets that come at 2:00 and 4:00 and 6:00 in the morning. they are unnerved by the constant reality show that is masquerading as the presidency. so i think people are nervous about his stewardship of the country. >> harris: i was surprised when i asked him, on the heels of everything else that has happened in the last 24 hours with michael cohen and the charges and everything, the sentencing -- when i said "what you want the american people to know a...

Judy, you know -- when the president -- and he just heard ari say, and also adrienne -- he's got a grasp on his base but he's not growing it. >> judy: yes, i agree in this instance with both ari and adrienne. because that is the challenge for republicans and for donald trump. he doesn't have to worry about flake. he doesn't have to worry about governor kasich, who i admire. there is no challenge to him from within his party at the moment. if anything, republicans -- >> harris: wow, you just threw every republican under the bus! [laughter] holy cow! >> judy: i do think his base is solid, but it...

>> adrienne: he has declining support from women, hair spray that's what he has. we sell his results reflected in the 2018 midterms where suburban women were the ultimate swing vote. they actually supported democrats, who were running in the midterms. that's why we had historic gains in the house. that's why democrats picked up 40 seats. the other problem that trump has is he does have a solid grasp on his base. there is no question about that. but he isn't growing his base. that's going to be the problem for him going into 2020. i will say think it's going to be hard for somebody like jeff fl...

Payment charge is that it reinforces what cohen, his low-level fixer/lawyer, has supposedly been telling anyone who will listen. that he was doing these dirty deeds for donald trump, because if it was just michael cohen, the president would be able to say "no, he's a liar." then i have the ami charge of payments meant to influence the outcome of an election, which supports that pattern of illegal behavior. i'm sorry, ari, i disagree with you. i'm not a lawyer but i think the charges together and do -- they do represent illegal activity, if they are proven to be true. >> harris: i want to go to...