E-mails. now it's very stark. there are witnesses who know about this meeting. we know if cnn's reporting that the president says he doesn't recall these meetings, so the stage is set for who knows what and who is actually telling the truth. >> you earned the velour jacket. >> i thought it was at least velvet. >> worth every cent of it. people remarked yesterday, john, when the president interviewed with his hometown paper, not just any hometown, but the "new york post," probably his favorite, and he went out of his way to say that pardoning manaforts is probably off the table. i know he answe...