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Judging the summit, is is it going to include the word denuclearization, and a process to get there. to me, that success or failure with regard to all the rest of the pomp and circumstance we've been watching the last several hours. >> hasn't president trump and the trump administration defined successor failure with the terms of the iran deal? by ripping up the iran deal from the american side, doesn't it mean that this deal has to be better than the iran deal with stronger verification provisions? >> well, i would think so. i mean, i would settle for the iran deal, by the way. i think the ir...

World without nuclear weapons. trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have any utility. you need hundreds of them. never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, you know, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. so it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had just one bomb, okay, you know, that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal. it wou...

Without nuclear weapons. they were trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have utility. you need hundreds of them, never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had one bomb, okay, you know that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal because they wouldn't need...

Without nuclear weapons. they were trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have utility. you need hundreds of them, never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had one bomb, okay, you know that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal because they wouldn't need...

Iran and hezbollah and we will act against their lawlessness. >> so what is behind this kind of ratcheting up this week? >> well, i think one other thing that happened this week is secretary of state rex tillerson certified that iran is complying with the 2015 nuclear deal that restricts its nuclear capabilities. it has prevented them from pursuing the nuclear bomb, verification provisions are in place. they certified that this week. there was a deadline. and so i think what is happening here is this is a subtle strategy of reminding the united states partners in the region, we're still concer...