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Is it your expectation that the president and senator manchin will talk before the end of the year? >> i'm not going to give you an update on those engagementsed and keep them private. >> you think his 1.8 trillion is a nonstarter? >> the president has been clear -- i'll let senator manchin speak to the specifics of his proposal. i wouldn't confirm that from here. i know there's reports out there. i'll let him speak to that. i would say that the president of course wants to extend the child tax credit. that is something that he has spoken to. we know it was a significant contributor cutting in...

Pandemic. that's what people ask expect tomorrow. >> thank you. on the negotiations of build back better, senator manchin's story differs from the white house's version sunday. yesterday. a long time ago. i wanted to know if you could talk about where the gap is, if the negotiations fell apart over the tax child credit issue. where are we with manchin? >> i'd say i think the lengthy statement that i issued yesterday outlined specifically the events of the last few weeks. it was important to the president and to all the of us to make that clear to the american people. the status and the steps t...