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Substantiative due process in the constitution, so they're just as wrong according to your theater. >> no, your honor. we're quite comfortable with washington versus glucksberg and how it analyzes substantiative due process and it looks at history and tradition to discipline -- >> i mean, in o'bergfeld, there was no history of same-sex marriage. >> and i think the court -- the court pointed out, look, when we were facing loving versus -- >> i'm not trying to argue that we should overturn those cases. i just think that you're dissimulating when you say that any ruling here wouldn't have an effe...

0 say. >> really? >> yeah. they used to be more polite. i have to say, the court over the last few years has gotten a bit more sharp in their questioning. and even sometimes to each other, and making digs at each other. that's an unfortunate trend. but i think for the most part, you'll hear a respectful discussion of the issues between the advocates and the court. maybe the most important thing to think about is when the justices are asking a question, they're not necessarily wanting to hear the answer from the advocate. they're making a point to one of the other justices. and so you as the ad...