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Kobach. vetting document had a whole section on white supremacy. it says past political opponents have accused kobach of allying himself with groups that had connections to white supremacist groups. he was recently considered for an immigration czar post. so, you know, potential ties with white supremacy aren't a deal breaker for the administration? is that what you're reading or am i reading this wrong? >> look, this is a dark history of the republican party for a long time. let's be honest. ever since richard nixon and the southern strategy, there has been a wink-wink strategy toward people ...

Meet with the people you disagree with. but what it never seemed to do is make him think, wait, david petraeus knows a hell of a lot more about this subject than i do. maybe i should rethink my position. he still to this day has never renounced that view that the united states military should engage in torture. just think about that, in violation of geneva convention. we have a president who actively asserts and endorses that view. >> let's talk about more vetting documents here because chris co-barb co co-bash is a form. vetting document had a whole section on white supremacy. it says past po...

Information that said don't put this guy on our ticket. >> well, there are two things that i think are applicable here and there are some details we can get into if you like. one is the general issue of temperament. one of the things they gave romney when they gave him the vetting document, the printed dealers was a ddd of kind of the christie greeted hits of lashing out at people, including constituents, which gave romney and some of his adviser a lot of pause to say is this the temperament we want to add to the ticket. some other examples where christie played by his own rules. where his sta...

Are in the public record, strictly speaking, but of which almost no one knows. for instance, most vividly the fact he was, and this is one of about 15 things, that he was at one point a lobbyist for the securities industry association of america when it was headed by bernie madoff. that was a thing they looked at and said this could be a mildly problematic thing in terms of 30-second ads. there was also christie's reluctance to take part in the vetting process, which is to say he agreed to be vetted and in a rather unusual move, he didn't provide a lot of the information that the vetters were ...

Talking about biden and hillary clinton. this has been a rumor basically since president obama took office, right? people have big -- can't stop talking about it yet it comes up again and again and again and we can't stop talking about it now. >> i'm surprised, i have to say, about the vindictiveness of leaking the vetting document, the romney team leaking the vetting document about chris christie. i know there was tension between the camps but at the end of the day, christie campaigned for romney, romney said nice things about christie. somebody said i hate chris christie, here's all the stuf...