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Of this troubles ever since he made that appointment. because he recused himself. >> and jeff sessions was trying to do the right thing, chris. he was trying to comport with the rule of law and honor some of the specifics of his office. meanwhile, you had ryan zinke, tom price and scott pruitt running roughshod over the perks of their office, using taxpayer dollars to take private flights, get police escorts to restaurants, have staff pick up dry cleaning for them and trump isn't bothered by any of that. the person on his staff who sticks out to him as the worst decision is the person who actu...

Week with pat shanahan, the acting defense secretary, where all of a sudden all of these issues started to bubble -- >> he had personal family issues that go way back. >> personal family issues. >> well known. >> the president last tuesday told us -- the reporters at the white house that he had only found out about those issues the night before pat shanahan with drew himself. we asked him, is this a vetting problem? why are you just finding out now? he defending his administration's vetting. so it was very interesting to see him come out on "meet the press" and acknowledge that personnel was a...

Country. trying to work with them to find a system where if you are under tremendous duress in your country and you can no longer -- you're no longer safe to stay in your country, to have that option. but the flood of people that we see coming now, it's obvious to me and many others and i think reflected in our bill this has got to be addressed and stopped. >> very quickly, the whole ugly and embarrassing episode with patrick shanahan, do you think there's a vetting problem? >> you know, i just read that yesterday. quite honestly, shockingly so. and a sad story, really, for his family and othe...

The middle of june in 2019 the polls predicted everything. >> let's talk about the sudden decision of patrick shanahan, he says withdraw my nomination to become the permanent defense secretary. the president said he only learned about the problems yesterday. what do you think in. >> it's very strange. some of the reporters that we know say they heard about it weeks ago. for the president to just get it yesterday, he knows a lot about a lot. he likes to get information as we already know. the bottom line is this president is trying to paint a great picture. he's trying to paint a picture of con...

He is the one, the serious guy. >> right. he has put on a veneer. but also, if you contemplate that notion, if he is genuinely looking a little forward, like what's going to happen perhaps? let's play the odds here. there is a decent chance maybe he'll be in a position to run for president. >> right. >> slide into president. now is the time for him to make these sort of signal to these people, the arpaio people, the carl higbies, those folks, i'm with you. down the road, i may not be able to cavort with you as much because i'm going into the general, if i will. but right now it's sort of the p...