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>> i would like to focus on the 15-week ban. that's not a dramatic departure from viability. it is the standard that the vast majority of other countries have. when you get to the viability standard, we share that standard with the people's republic of china and north korea. i don't think to be concerned if those are you share that particular time period. >> there are two questions there if i may. first that is not correct about international law. in fact, the majority of countries that permit legal access to abortion allow access right up until viability even if they have nominal lines earlie...

Picking the side that says if the legislature decides a women shunt have the right to determine their own future in terms of pregnant that a state legislature can take it away from them. of course we saw the map that you put up. it's not like there is an even sprinkling across the country. if roe versus weighed is reversed there will be parts particularly in the deep south of the country where women will have to travel hundreds of miles to access something that's prfl been deemed a substantive right. what's? is there -- it seems there are five votes to undue roe's viability standard. ultimatel...

The others, china, north korea, vietnam, singapore, canada, netherlands, iceland and guinea. the most developed countries today allow elective abortions only during the first trimester or up to about 12 weeks. and only 59 out of 190 nations allow elected abortions at all. today chief justice john roberts reiterated this reality. >> when you get to the viability standard, we share that standard with the people's republic of china and north korea. and i don't think you have to be in favor of looking to international law to set our constitutional standards to be concerned. >> republican senators ...

Constitutional right that involves the taking of a life. what difference does that make in your analysis? >> sure, your honor. i think it makes a number of differences. one -- i have mentioned two in particular. one, it really does mark out the unbelievably profound ramifications of this area which in many other areas, assisted suicide, a whole host of important areas that are important to dignity, autonomy, freedom, and matters of conscience, it marks it out as one of the unique areas where the supreme court has taken that to the people. it's something that implicates life and just marks off,...

Something that is clearly settled, or at least that many people have come to depend on. the legal standard may not be settled, but the idea that abortion should be legal seems to be largely settled. >> we're going to talk to one of the leaders of the abortion rights movement involved in this case. i know you've been talking to people, too, on the other side of the issue. as you've been out there in front of the court covering these demonstrations. tell us more about that. >> so we've been talking about the viability standard, one of the arguments, hallie that's going to be made by the state of...