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And the argument will win. let's be clear. the distributors and wind delays in the state have this strong lobby and they don't want other distributors and dealers to deliver end. when you don't go to the liquor store, it's 2%. so it is a big number, because -- the bottom line is that the local distributors and the local retailers don't want to allow the law, but the vino will flow. i do agree that in 2005 and again a couple of years ago, the supreme court made it very clear it is a over restricted restriction on commerce. the out-of-state people will be able to sell. >> okay, so to recap, let ...

Donovan, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> mike: from rhode island general law, no manufacture of distilled spirits or wines whose principal place of manufacture is outside of the state shall hold a wholesalers license. brian, start us off. >> mike, last name is rotella, right? so i've a message for her friends out in rhode island. let the vino flow. 1951, this is probably not a constitutional law. 2001, maybe not. 2021, this is unconstitutional. for three reasons. the commerce clause paired with the commerce clause for a folks out there, we don't want new york and new jersey to have a trad...

Out in california. that is against the commerce clause, it is unconstitutional, let the vino flow. i think this is ultimately going to be a supreme court case and it's going to go on the favor of the folks challenging. >> mike: let the vino flow, i like it. contacting out-of-state merchants and prevented from purchasing and receiving a lawful product and an interstate marketplace in which they wish to participate. rich, what is your take? >> he's right. the bottom line here is if you can't discriminate against out-of-state wine distributors, then let's be clear. i live in rhode island and i wa...