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Vis-a-vis the gangs setting their own rules in good parts of the capital. >> harold, what is the future for these 16 americans and one canadian missionaries who have been kidnapped? are thesegangs typically seekin ransom, are their lives in danger? tell us what we know based on past practices from gangs like this. >> reporter: well, the 400 mawozo gangs is known for having done these kind of daring kidnapping such as french nationals they kidnapped a few months back and they were missionaries as well and they had eventually been released after negotiations that lasted a few days and weeks. not...

Fortunately, all the facts have been exposed and don't show any manipulation, significant manipulation of the election at all. maybe a couple of clerical errors now and then is all i read. >> the facts are out there. the truth is out there. they only matter if people choose to believe them. >> can i make another comment? >> yeah. >> the chavez thing, there was one election where chavez had three-quarters of the venezuela precinct, had exactly the same vote. that was chavez's way of saying to jimmy carter and the election observers, i will do what i want. i don't think it had a whole lot to do ...

Resign or not. there was a great deal of concern. some stayed because they were concerned that if they resigned what might happen in those waning days. again, i'm going to let general milley explain his comments when he testifies. i will not reference things that are in a book coming out. but those were challenging and dangerous days between the 6th and the 20th. and i think it begs beyond the challenge around trumpism, and up laid out some of the litany of the remarkably bad events that took place. i think it is incumbent on going forward. i say this vis-a-vis president biden and future presi...

Vis-a-vis roe v. wade, why shouldn't i as a married gay man not be afraid that this might spell doom for the obergafeld decision that made my marriage legal? >> ruth, do you want to go first? >> no, i think it was to you, neal. i want to hear your answer. >> i 100% agree with you, jonathan. that's exactly the harm. that's what ruth's column isolates. the essence of the rule of law, when you think about it, why is it there? it rises, in part, because the option on the other side is the lynch mob. it's vigilantes that privately enforce their own view of what the law is, not with respect to prece...

Them. isis in mounting an attack like this succeeds not only in tragically killing americans, which is something that is a key goal of isis, but also disrupting the situation in kabul for the taliban. it wants to make life difficult for the taliban. it is not there to see the taliban take over the country and run it as it wishes. >> yeah, michael, i share your desire to kind of label and explain isis-k vis-a-vis the taliban, especially for viewers just joining us in light of today's news. we are going to be hearing so much more about these two groups and this fractured relationship between the...