Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with in-depth reporting and investigations. gates is all to blame here. they re saying he is the one who stole and embezzled money. they re saying he s the one who lied. and now they re trying flip this on the government. rick gates will be the government s star witness, but the defense team is saying how can he be your star witness? rick gates is an admitted liar and he is now cooperating with the government. what s next for the trial? what happens tomorrow? just day one, we ve already seen a lot. but day two we re expecting that the prosecution will be calling two more witnesses. we expect another democratic consultant who worked with paul manafort. we re also expecting to hear from an fbi agent. the prosecution here says that they have a witness list of 35 people that they plan to call, but this trial is really only expected to go three weeks. we saw just how fast this trial moved just in the first day here. so who knows. it could wrap up even sooner. but yes, 35 witnesses of the prosecution is expecting to call. anderson? i m amazed how fast it moved today. jessica schneider, thank you so much. we have new reporting now from cnn s jeff zeleny, more on the anything russia-related. that is it the elephant in the room there for the jurors? or can they do that? i have a lot of confidence in jurors in matters like this. the real problem for paul manafort here is there doesn t appear to be any evidence that he paid his taxes. i mean, he got all this money. it was stashed in these foreign bank accounts, and the taxes weren t paid. now like most people who are accused of a crime with a cooperating witness, he s going try to put all the blame on the cooperating witness that is a standard strategy. it rarely works. but it sometimes does. and but it s just going to be difficult for persuade the jury that somehow rick gates is responsible for the fact that paul manafort made millions upon millions of dollars and didn t pay his taxes. jennifer, do you agree that that defense strategy, trying to pin it all on rick gates, who is a cooperating witness, that s basically the kind of defense 101? it is. it exactly. the problem here is that rick gates, of course, was not cooperating until after the charges were filed. they were prepared to proceed without rick gates on board. they have all the documentary evidence. like jeff just said, these are individual income taxes that paul manafort lied about, not to mention some properties on which there was mortgage fraud, had nothing to do with rick gates in the hamptons and in brooklyn. he is going to have a really hard time ping all of this on rick gates, for sure. the push from the president s allies arguing that paul manafort was nobody on their campaign, he only worked there for four months, i think the president said 49 days at one point. they can try to put all the distance they want between him and the president, but he wasn t the coffee boy. he was the campaign chairman. i think the smarter tactic here is to remind people over and over these charges have absolutely nothing to do with the campaign. and even the witnesses being put forward have nothing to do with the campaign at all with the exception of the one sidekick that followed paul manafort over the last 20 plus years or so of his career. problems. those are not donald trump problems. it s harder to blow it out of proportion, jeff, if your title is chairman of the campaign. it seems like a pretty big time. absolutely. and remember what s charged with. he is charged with taking millions upon millions of dollars from victor yanukovych who was the pro putin politician in the ukraine. ukraine. so it s not that this is completely unrelated to the whole russia situation. remember too that during the convention, they changed the platform toe make the ukrainian section more pro-putin. so the entire thrust of the trump campaign, which the issue of a conspiracy with the russian interests remains the heart of the investigation, manafort s presence in the campaign is evidence of sympathy to putin in and of itself. so in that respect, it s not the criminal charges, but who paul manafort is, is highly relevant to this investigation. but jeffrey, if i could just jump in real quick, is there some sort of crime that you re accusing the president of? no. here? no. i m not. but when you are asking why the president had this fixation with vladimir putin, which apparently continues to this day, and why vladimir putin was so desperate to see donald trump win and hillary clinton lose, and why donald trump was asking russians to hack e-mails, which they did the same day, all of it is relevant evidence to what happened in this campaign. jennifer, at some point rick gates himself will have to testify. do you think he ll find anything out about will we find anything out about the larger mueller investigation from that? . you know, the one way that we could is that when a cooperator testifies, the defense is entitled to cross-examine him or her about all impeachment material. so if rick gates did things during the campaign that were illegal or go to his credibility, then prosecutors could raise that and the defense could cross-examine on it. you know, it seems from some of the pretrial motions in litigation that the word russia i guess one of the prosecutors said probably won t even be uttered. so it sounds like they don t have that kind of impeachment material that they need to front and that manafort s lawyers will cross on. so i m suspecting not. but if there is anything like that, that would be the context in which it would be raised. jason, president trump has said on more than one occasion about only hiring the best. if that s true, shouldn t the campaign have done its due diligence when it came the paul manafort and figured out if manafort had been operating aboveboard or not? this is a pretty, you know, sleazy track record that the prosecutors certainly have laid out. well, absolutely. but there is no such thing as a time machine. and so the fact of the matter is that paul manafort was on board for as i said before, a relatively shorter amount of time, and he was not the person who ultimately was the campaign manager that took us across the finish line. that was kellyanne, as you know along with steve bannon and a whole host of other folks who were on board. but look, paul manafort, we primarily focused on the convention phase of this, did have a long track record of working with conventions and things like that. but i think one of the other things that i think kind of a little jumbled up in the media is that president trump and manafort weren t particularly close. i don t think that president trump really knew much all about paul manafort s background. these were not two men who would hang out, grab dinner or lunch or chat. but to the point the president constantly saying he hires the best, that seems to imply he knows who he s hiring. your argument is he didn t really know this guy even though he went on tv multiple times and talked about what a great guy he was. well, he got a mulligan in this one. but what s the one thing donald trump knew about paul manafort, which was that he worked for victor yanukovych. that was basically his only client for years. and the fact that he worked for yanukovych, the pro putin politician in ukraine was good enough for donald trump. that tells you something in and of itself, no? but i think the one thing that president trump knew is that paul manafort had convention experience. in the 80s. in the 80s. 30 years ago. but it s been a long time since there was a real convention fight. keep in mind it had been rite lit rally decades since there was a real convention battle within republican party politics. he wasn t being brought on for any policy matters or any grand strategic vision. he is someone who was going to manage the convention. that was the value he was demonstrating at that particular time. all right, jason miller, jeff toobin, jennifer rodgers, thanks very much. up next, the president s trip to florida and his flight from any tough questions or any place he might encounter any tough questions. we re keeping him honest on that. also, breaking news. in the fight over firearms that you can make at home with a special printer and the plans a court tonight just blocked from getting out. the legal battle and the role the white house played in this with 3-d printing guns ahead on ac 360. before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, lucy could only imagine enjoying a slice of pizza. now it s as easy as pie. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? 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(vo) one family. different unlimited plans. starting at $40 per line. switch now and get $300 off our best phones all on the network you deserve. well, it is july 31st and that give us an opportunity to point something else. the white house has only held three press briefings all month. these things used to be common enough that they were called the daily white house briefing, which meant daily. now you can call them nearly extinct, which makes what you re to be hear fairly odd. give a listen and ask yourself, does this sound like a promise? we re here. we re taking questions. we re doing everything we can to provide regular and constant information to the american people, and there is a responsibility by you guys to provide accurate information, and we re going to continue to try to work with you. well, she said that may 9th. that entire month, there were nine white house press briefings. in june, just five. this month, only three. so tell us what was that again? we re here. we re taking questions. we re doing everything we can to provide regular and constant information to the american people. everything they can do to provide regular and constant information. everything they can do. see, for a minute there, it sounded like sarah sanders was actually promising to provide regular and constant information to the american people. her why they promised the people one thing and is doing the polar opposite, but we haven t had the chance because there have only been three briefings this sara sanders about her promise, take a number. if you want to see the president challenged about why the white house lied about the president not being involved with wanting to buy karen mcdougal s size after audiotape shows he actually was, sorry, you are out of luck. and the same goes for false and misleading statements like this one just yesterday. the president tweeting a highly respected federal judge today stated that the trump administration gets great credit for reuniting legal families. thank you, and please look at the previous administration s record. not good. the president neglected to point out that the judge essentially admonished him for essentially making orphans out of kids. you can omit, you can rephrase, you can make stuff up. whatever you want, and no one can challenge you. last year anthony scaramucci, the new white house communications director for those ten glorious days, or was it 11, refused to commit to regular white house briefings. the following may the president threatened to replace them with written handouts he said in the name of accuracy. that didn t happen. but it sure likes the idea of reducing transparency and accountability is actually gaining traction at the white house today. president trump, for example, left for his trip to florida this afternoon without saying a word to reporters. and in case you re wondering, that is par for the course. alongside italy s prime minister yesterday, the president refused to answer questions 16 times in just the last six days. thank you, thanks, guys. thank you. mr. president, sir, is michael cohen lying? did michael cohen betray you? mr. president, did michael cohen debev tray you, sir? mr. president, why did you cancel the meeting with vladimir putin, sir? well, that s what we re seeing more and more of, unanswered questions and fewer chances to ask them. and in the meantime, the president reportedly is itching for more occasions like he just finished up at tonight, rallies where he can say whatever he wants and hear nothing in return but applause. our jim acosta is in tampa tonight, joins us. this lack of transparency. is there any other reason they re doing this other than the fact they don t want to answer questions about why the president lied and why the white house, why the campaign i should say, lied about the president not knowing anything about karen mcdougal and ami and the deal? anderson, i think the only thing you can conclude, and you re going to hear some folks here, i think, letting their feelings be known at this rally here in tampa, about how they feel about cnn. but anderson, i think the honest answer to your question is that this white house is obviously hiding from the press. they re hiding the president from the press. they are hiding the press secretary from the press. that s the only conclusion you can come to when they ve only had five press briefings in the last month of june, and only three press briefings this month. i mean, that is historically at a very low level. now, one thing we should point out, anderson, at this rally tonight, the president went after what he calls fake news. he even talked about fake polls, even though he touted a poll that he said that he had seen saying he was the most popular republican president ever. it s hard to understand how you can have fake polls but also out the polls show you being popular. but anderson, despite the president going after the press, he just hadn t given us opportunities to ask him very many questions. and i think there really is no other reasonable conclusion other than they just don t like the questions that are going to be asked right now. you know, i ve been trying to talk to white house aides about this, and one of the things you hear, and they ve said this before in the past is that, well, when the president has a speech, or when he has an event, they don t want to step on the message of the day. well, the president had a speech tonight, and so there was no press briefing today. it is possible they could have one tomorrow, anderson, but we just don t know at this point. so there is no idea when the next one might be held? say that again? there is no idea, it s not a schedule when the next one might be held? you know, i think it is possible. i m pushing these earpieces in my ear just to hear you, anderson. i think it s possible they could hold one perform. but aides are being very cagey about it. one thing they ll talk about as they have these off camera gaggles when the president is traveling down on air force one, and that sort of thing to various events. but as you and i both know, anderson, that s not the same as having an on-camera briefing with the press secretary coming into the briefing room. you know we used to call them daily press briefings. they re barely weekly press briefings anything. and i think, anderson, the only conclusion you can draw at this point is they just don t like the questions right now. and it s amazing, anderson. you re hearing some of the insults being hurled at us right now. i ve been talking to some of these folks this evening, even though they re being pretty negative towards us right now. i answered a bunch of questions from some of these trump supporters here about all sorts of things, a lot more questions than the president has taken from us in recent days, anderson. gem acosta, appreciate you being there. thanks, jim. i want to bring in two new voices. one from david axelrod with long white house experience managing the message. and carl bernstein, who has even longer experience holding presidents accountable, including this one, shares a buyline on the michael cohen scoop. everyone has issues with the preside press. have you ever seen a white house that has had this many issues with the press? well, i ve never seen a white house who has had many, many issues, not just issues with the press, but every this is a precedent-shattering white house. and particularly when it comes to issues of transparency and disclosure, starting with the president s refusal to release his tax returns and running through a whole series of things. i think the important thing, though, here is beyond not answering questions about michael cohen and the probe which are uncomfortable, we ve also seen the practice suspended of briefing people, briefing the press when the president speaks to foreign leaders. we are only americans are only finding out what the president has said in their name from reports from foreign governments. it s two weeks later. we still don t know what was said between him and vladimir putin. i mean, there are fundamental things, bits of information that the american people deserve, and, you know, the bottom line is this president doesn t believe that he has any obligation to share that information with people. he calls the press the enemy of the people. he conflates his political interest with the public interest. and he thinks that reporting is a hostile act. yeah, the fact is we re not even sure he has told his secretary of state or his secretary of defense exactly what was discussed with vladimir putin in that meeting. it s not clear from their own from pompeo s testimony that he really has a full read-out from the president. right. carl, you fought with many white houses over the years trying to get your questions answered. nixon s secretary ron ziegler had a famously adversarial relationship with the press. how would you describe things now? i think it s far worse. news organizations from the washington post to the new york times to cnn, ap, reuters are doing some of the greatest reporting we have ever seen on a presidency. and the result is that the american people understand what the facts are. they can make up their own minds about it because of our reporting. the idea that somehow we would expect this president, this presidency, this administration to be anything like open or transparent or honest or truthful at this stage of the game is absurd on our part. and we re doing the right thing by doing our reporting. donald trump is the president of his base. he makes no attempt to be the president of all the people of this country. and part of appealing to his base is to make the conduct of the press the issue rather than the conduct of donald trump and his presidency. so that s where we are, and the great part of this, as opposed to the part that we ought to be terrified about is that we re doing the reporting. and that s really why he is so upset, why he is so furious, why he is going to ground the way he is, because we have raised the questions about what is truthful, particularly about his relationship with putin, particularly about his relationship with michael cohen. we ve raised the questions. they re out there, and the people of this country know that they re out there. david, to carl s point, it s not just about making the press the enemy, it s making nfl players the enemy at times when it suits the president, or making, you know, undocumented immigrants the enemy, or whomever it may be to suit the president s needs at any given time. i want to ask you, though, about comparing to the obama administration. because kaitlan collins was barred last week from attending an event in the rose garden at the white house, didn t like questions she asked. obviously the white house has issues with cnn and their coverage there are those who say look at the obama administration. they didn t always give the same access to fox news as everyone else or the same number of introduce. to that you say what? is that a fair comparison? i don t no, i don t think it s a fair comparison because they never boxed fox reporters from doing their jobs. i talked to fox news reporters all the time when i was in the white house. they asked questions at presidential press conferences and so on. i don t think it s look, as you pointed out at the beginning, every president is irritated at times by their coverage, but most presidents understand that that is part of the obligation of the job. that a free press is enshrined in the first amendment for a reason. but i just want to react to one thing that carl said. it s not just that he s using the press as a foil with his base. he is trying to impeach the media so that when facts are reported that are inconvenient to him, he can dismiss them as political in nature. and that to me is a very insidious thing. that s really, you know that is the stuff of autocratic states. and so while i agree with carl that the reporting has been aggressive, it s been thorough, it s been critical, there is still concern about a president who doesn t really believe in a free press. and carl, it is not just the lack of press briefings. you know, the president himself still hasn t directly answered questions about why his campaign lied about their involvement in trying to buy karen mcdougal s rights the rights to her story from ami, which the campaign claim they d had no knowledge of, they knew nothing about the ami deal, nor has he answered any questions about your reporting that he allegedly knew about the trump tower meeting in advance. this president and this presidency and this white house has no no interest in the truth as we have known it in every other presidency. this president and this presidency has an interest only in its own propaganda, its own lies, its own version of events that have nothing to do with real existing information. you know, i went to jack kennedy s press conferences, starting with his third one. i was copy boy at the time. and if you were to go back and watch him and every successive president of the united states, including richard nixon, you would not see anything comparable to the lying, to the unavailability to being open and transparent, such as we have seen in this presidency. this presidency and this president is unique. we have never had anything like this in our history in terms of disinformation. yeah. misinformation, and an attempt to undermine the truth at every turn. not just in a criminal conspiracy like watergate, but about everything. carl bernstein. so i think there are no surprises at this point. carl, thank you. david axelrod as well. a quick note we should point out that anthony scaramucci s tenure came shortly after the idea the president floated eliminating press briefings. i m sorry, i was wrong on that. coming up, a federal judge makes a decision on the 3-d printed guns that have been causing so much controversy. and after the president tweets, the white house and the nra have very similar statements about the undetectable and untraceable guns. the latest next. from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? 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yeah, in terms of the law thanks for having me on again, anderson. appreciate it. this is a nationwide ban. so what it does is takes us back to a period of time before the federal government flipped on their policy regarding these 3-d ghost guns. what it means is if anyone posts this information online, they re in violation of federal law and can suffer very serious consequences. so it makes it unlawful to post that information and make it available to the public. why did the government offer a settlement to allow these blueprints on the internet in the first place? do we know? wasn t it the state department that stepped in to prevent them from being posted online? that is a very good question, anderson. and truly, it s baffling to me and many others why the federal government made this decision. and just to be clear, to your point, there has been a court case going on texas in which the obama administration and the trump administration opposed this entity down in texas from making this information public. the state department filed declarations, talking about the national security risk and public safety risk of any process, no procedure, no nothing. they caved on a case they were winning and allowed this entity to go forward. it s truthfully breathtaking, and the risk to public safety is hard to overstate. yeah, the cody wilson, the man who invented the first 3-d printed gun told cnn today that despite your suit, he has already uploaded plans for the ar-15 semiautomatic rifles have been downloaded more than 2100 times. how concern ready you? and is there anything you can do than? once it s out there, it s out there, isn t it? so i am very concerned than. and every american who is be very concerned about that. and the president of the united states should be very concerned about that. and he can put a stop to this right now. he should tell his attorneys to stand down in this litigation and allow us to declare victory in this case and move forward. so, yes, some folks have been able to act a says information. but obviously, anderson, if it s allowed to go forward for days, weeks, months, obviously many more thousands of people would have access to it. we want to limit that damage, and we re very thankful our judge here in seattle granted our request for a restraining order to shut this donation wide. this notion from the white house and from the nra that, quote, regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. so that you say what? well, i say why are you fighting in me in court, then? we re going to court to go back to a time in which it was illegal to do this. the u.s. government was in court today saying no, the entity should be allowed to post this information. so once again, we have an administration, we have a white house where the left hand doesn t know what the right hand s doing. they re not communicating in concert with one another. there is nothing new about that, anderson. i ve been on your show many times and i ve filed 32 lawsuit against this administration. in ten cases, we have decisions. i won all ten of them. one of the reasons i ve won all ten is because this administration can t keep their story straight. they re sloppy. and frankly, they re dangerous when it comes to public safety. and that s why i m so relieved judge lasnick took the action he did today. thanks for being on today. thank you. this is a day after his private tv attorney rudy giuliani said the same thing. we ll have an examination of that just ahead. (burke) at farmers, we ve seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even vengeful vermin. not so cute when they re angry. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum democrats. rudy giuliani said pretty much the same thing yesterday morning cnn. which i don t eno ifs they a crime, colluding about russians. okay. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. yes. of course not. that s the original well, in the strictest sense, both president trump and giuliani are correct. there is no statute against collusion. joining me to deconstruct, retired colonel ralph peters. this change from the president months and monthsingi there was no collusion, now saying in addition to that collusion was not a crime. the fact that giuliani is saying that as well. does it seem there is a strategy behind that shift? a strategy of desperation, if a strategy at all. collusion outright may not be a crime in and of itself, but, anderson, treason is a crime. collaborating and conspireing with a hostile foreign power against the united states is a crime. receiving material support, clandestine material support from a hostile foreign power is a crime. and we get to the people around trump. moneylaundering is a crime. tax fraud is a crime. lying under oath is a crime. so there is plenty of crime to go around. but what trump and giuliani and all their paladins have been doing is doing their best to blind the american people, to overwhelm us with various forms of diversion and obscure data, to cloud the issue, to muddy the waters. pick your cliche. but for me, as someone who genuinely cares about this country and who doesn t give a damn about either political party, for me there is one core question facing our country today, one paramount question, and that is has the president of the united states committed treason against the united states, specifically, in service in thrall of some sort to vladimir putin? i hope i m wrong. i hope it didn t happen. we ll see what robert mueller brings to the fore. but we must focus on that question and not be diverted by clownish antics, because trump is a brilliant entertainer. in a peculiar way, he may be history s greatest entertainer. he commands global headlines every single day, and we make a mistake of thinking about him as a politician or a leader when he is an entertainer. and by allowing ourselves to be constantly entertained, we lose sight of fundamental ethics, values and security of this nation. you talk about him as a propagandist and a very effective propagandispropagandi yes. not only the simple catchphrases, but repeated time and time and time again so that they just become normalized. it s also part of it s not just about repeating phrases, it s also used as a diversion. yes. to take you off focusing, take the american people, the media, whomever, their eye off what s really happening, what really matters. yes. and anderson, consider what a brilliant move it is to attack the press as the enemy of the people. instead of having the spotlight on trump and his alleged misdeeds, on his daily misdeeds against this country, it turns against the press, the press as generals would have said or the enemy of people. enemy of the people is a loaded term. it does go back to roman times. but there the modern era the first person i can find who really used it is robespierre in the french revolution. a student of russian affairs, it s the enemy of item t people in russia. under stalin during the purges, if you were called an enemy of the people, it was a death sentence. and given all of trump s other ties, to russia and things russian and people associated with russia, it hardly seemed a coincidence that he calls our press the enemy of the people. and anderson, our press is not above criticism. sure. it s made of human beings. human beings are flawed. i have when i thought the press deserved it, i have criticized the press fiercely, but i hope constructively, because without a free press as our founding fathers recognized, democracy cannot function. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, always good to have you on. thank you. thank you. i want to check in with chris cuomo at the top of the hour. peters makes you gulp. the way talking about stalin, it s pretty intense. it s just weird that they re using the same phrase. so tonight we re going to take a little bit of a different tact on this issue about collusion not equalling a crime. i actually think that the media got out over its skis on this, and i think we re missing the forest for one tree, and i m going make the legal case today. and i think it s mostly common sense where you can start with where we re hearing from the trump legal team right now, but still wind up looking at a whole garden basket of potential criminal activity that stems from this. so we ll lay out the case. we re also going to take on the man who wants people to be able to make their own 3-d guns at home. he is going to make the case to the audience as to why. and we are going to test it, my friend. chris, your screen getting bigger and bigger, your white board there? yeah, it is actually. i actually have two white boards. either that or you re shrinking. i am slimming. i hope this new suit lets you know, that anderson. this is the big board. i have two. good to know. don t be jealous. you have everything else. i covet the board. thank you very much. kind of look alike again. you know, i m trying to follow in your footsteps. only from here down. on capitol hill today, the top officials were peppered with questions about the trump administration policy of separations at the southern border. one official said he was told family separation was not part of the policy. coming up, we ll talk to a senator who was there. yeah! we hide hotel names, so you can find four star hotels at two star prices. h-o-t-w-i-r-e raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things hearing today and those questions e listed some pretty remarkable answers. at one point, it was said the facilities were, quote, more like a summer camp. that s what he said. take a look at this exchange between senator richard blumenthal and an official at the department of health and human services who acknowledged separating children from their parents was a bad thing. would i be correct in assuming that the answer to you was, in effect, that s the whole purpose of the policy, to inflict pain so as to deter asylum seekers from coming here, correct? no, sir. we were advised that family separation was not the policy. he had raised concerns about the policy there. well, that s interesting he was told that because here s attorney general jeff sessions on fox news talking about the policy. are you considering this a deterrent? i see the fact that no one was being prosecuted for this as a factor in a fivefold increase in four years in this count of illegal immigration. so, yes, hopefully people will get the message. it was intended there as a deterrent. jeff sessions said it. so did john kelly on camera. at the hearing was minnesota senator amy glclowe ba sure. when he tried to get some clarifycation about the family separation policy, even he was told it was not the policy. i mean the standard answer from the government, how do you square that with the world actually seeing the separations as well as multiple members of the administration describing what they say as not a policy, as a deterrent. well, it s very clear when you listen to the leadership, the words you hear from the attorney general, from the chief of staff of the white house, that they did view this as a deterrent. but the problem is then they re using kids as a weapon. and i was at the border, and the families i met, some of whom had been reunited, all they wanted to do was to get back to their mom. a little 10-year-old boy and his mom, she had fled honduras as a victim of domestic violence. and then to have her child yanked away from her at the border, didn t know if she would ever see him again. and he said, well, i knew i d always see my mom again because she d find me. those are heartbreaking stories, and that s what we heard today at the hearing. and it s very clear to me that there were some people of good will at those front lines whether they were people that worked at the agencies, whether they were the like sister norma from catholic charities who runs the operations down there in mcallen, or the volunteers that came from all over america with good hearts to try to fix this. but it should never have happened in the first place. thernl certainly been a lot of reports, stories about what the detention centers holding the kids were like. today we heard this other description from an i.c.e. official who said this. i want to play it for our viewers. i think the best way to describe them is to be more like a summer camp. these individuals have access to 24/7 food and water. they have educational opportunities. they have recreational opportunities, both structured as well as unstructured. i mean you ve talked about having been to the border. i m wondering what you make of that summer camp description. this is not what i heard from these families. one pair of siblings who were separated from each other, one went to florida. one went to texas. they described themselves as being cold. they described themselves as wanting to go and see their parents again. and you still, anderson, have 711 kids that have been separated from their parents. over 400 of them, they can t find their parents. you know what the difference is between summer camp and this? you go home to your parents after summer camp. there s also been reports of kidding being given psych oh tropeic drugs without a parent s permission. i don t think that happens at summer camp. no, it does not. did anyone ask that official if he would send his children to summer camp to that kind of a summer camp? those kinds of things were asked and we got some vague answers. there was one official from hhs, commander white, who clearly said that he told his superiors he was concerned about the psychological effect on these kids. and he also said, you know, this was a policy that we applied to uncompanied minors. but these kids were accompanied. they weren t accompanied by their parents. this announcement from facebook today that she shut down a disinformation campaign that was targeting the midterm elections. you introduced legislation aimed at trying to prevent election interference this past fall. are you happy with how facebook handled this? i m glad they came forward and said what we believed is true and that is the russians are still trying to do this, or it looks like russians because they re similar to what they had before the election. one of them had nearly 300,000 followers. these same kinds of ads that are
Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with in-depth reporting and investigations. courthouse in alexandrialexandr virginia, cnn s jessica schneider. so what did we learn today at the trial? anderson, we learned a lot. it was only the first day here, but this courtroom is definitely living up to its rocket docket reputation. they managed to whittle down this jury pool of 65 people down to 12 jurors plus four alternates, and then, of course, we heard the fiery opening statements here. in this, prosecutors shed some light on paul manafort s lavish lifestyle, and they did it by talking about his 30 hidden foreign bank accounts they say existed in three different countries. and they say that funded that lavish lifestyle that included seven different homes, ranging from virginia to manhattan, all the way to the hamptons on long island. they also talked about his $500,000 luxury clothing. they mentioned a $21,000 watch, and they even, yes, mentioned a $15,000 jacket made of ostrich. the prosecution here says that they have a witness list of 35 people that they plan to call, but this trial is really only expected to go three weeks. we saw just how fast this trial moved just in the first day here. so who knows. it could wrap up even sooner. but yes, 35 witnesses of the prosecution is expecting to call. anderson? i m amazed how fast it moved today. jessica schneider, thank you so much. we have new reporting now from cnn s jeff zeleny, more on the white house strategy for dealing with the trial. as you might have guessed from the top of the program, item one, distancing the president from paul manafort. we re also learning the president watched trial coverage on his way down to florida today. that s according to officials who spoke to jeff. and the president has asked staffers for regular updates as the prtrial proceeds. joining us is jeffrey toobin, a former federal prosecutor. so is jennifer rodgers. and jason miller is a former trump campaign senior adviser. so, jeff, the fact that it s day one and there s already been jury selection, opening statements and the first witness called, what does it tell you about how this trial is going to proceed? it s going to be two weeks rather than three weeks. i just have no doubt this trial will go faster than expected. that s how it always works in the eastern district of virginia. and it s a place where prosecutors win almost all the time. it is known as a very pro-prosecution jurisdiction, and given the facts of this case, i think manafort is just in a world of trouble. but jeff, the judges want prosecutors the steer clear of anything russia-related. is that i mean, is it the elephant in the room there for the jurors or, i mean, can they do that? you know, i have a lot of confidence in jurors in matters like this. i mean, the real problem for paul manafort here is there doesn t appear to be any evidence that he paid his taxes. i mean, he got all this money. it was stashed in these foreign bank accounts, and the taxes weren t paid. now, like most people who are accused of a crime with a cooperating witness, he s going try to put all the blame on the cooperating wutness. that is a standard strategy. it rarely works, but it sometimes does. and you know, but it s just going to be difficult to persuade the jury that somehow rick gates is responsible for the fact that paul manafort made millions upon millions of dollars and didn t pay his taxes. jennifer, do you agree that that defense strategy, trying to pin it all on rick gates, who is a cooperating witness, that s basically the kind of defense 101? it is. it is exactly. the problem here is that rick gates, of course, was not cooperating until after the charges were filed. so, they were prepared to proceed with this case without rick gates onboard. they have all the documentary evidence. like jeff just said, these are individual income taxes that paul manafort lied about, not to mention some properties on which there was mortgage fraud, had nothing to do with rick gates in the hamptons and in brooklyn. so, he s going to have a really hard time pinning all of this on rick gates, for sure. jason, the push from the president s allies arguing that paul manafort was basically nobody on the campaign, only worked there for four months, through the republican convention if it wasn t paul manafort. did paul manafort help prevent some of the brain damage if it had gone forward and there had been a floor fight and such things like that? of course. but was there any chance that president trump was going to get caught up at convention or he wasn t going to get through or anything like that? of course not. let s not go and blow it out of proportion. so, the role that he played was a relatively shorter amount of time, and i don t think we need to go and blow that out of proportion. but again, everything that s happening to paul manafort, those are paul manafort problems, those are not donald trump problems. it s harder to blow it out of proportion, jeff, if your title is chairman of the campaign. it seems like a pretty big time. absolutely. and remember what he s charged with. he is charged with taking millions upon millions of dollars from viktor yanukovych, who was the pro-putin politician in ukraine. so, it s not that this is completely unrelated to the whole russia situation. remember, too, that during the convention, they changed the platform toe make the ukrainian section more pro-putin. so, the entire thrust of the trump campaign, which the issue of a conspiracy with the russian interests, you know, remains the heart of the investigation. manafort s presence in the campaign is evidence of sympathy to putin in and of itself. so in that respect, it s not the criminal charges, but who paul manafort is, is highly relevant to this investigation. but jeffrey, if i could just jump in real quick, is there some sort of crime that you re accusing the president of? no. i m not, but you know, when you are asking why the president has this fixation with vladimir putin, which apparently continues to this day, and why vladimir putin was so desperate to see donald trump win and hillary clinton lose and why donald trump was asking russians to hack e-mails, which they did the same day, all of it is relevant evidence to what happened in this campaign. jennifer, i mean, at some point, rick gates himself will have to testify. do you think he ll find anything out about will we find anything out about the larger mueller investigation from that? you know, the one way that we could is that when a cooperator testifies, the defense is entitled to cross-examine him or her about all impeachment material. so, if rick gates did things during the campaign that were illegal or go to his credibility, then prosecutors could raise that and the defense could cross-examine on it. you know, it seems from some of the pretrial motions and litigation that the word russia, i guess one of the prosecutors said, probably won t even be uttered. so, it sounds like they don t have that kind of impeachment material they need to front and that manafort lawyers will cross on, so i m suspecting not, but if there is anything like that, that could be the context in which it would be raised. jason, president trump has said on more than one occasion about only hiring the best. if that s true, shouldn t the campaign have done its due diligence when it came the paul manafort and figured out if manafort had been operating above board or not? this is a pretty, you know, sleazy track record that the prosecutors certainly have laid out. well, absolutely. but there is no such thing as a time machine. and so, the fact of the matter is is that paul manafort was onboard for, as i said before, a relatively shorter amount of time, and he was not the person who ultimately was the campaign manager that took us across the finish line. that was kelly anne, as you know, along with steve bannon and a whole host of other folks who were onboard. but look, paul manafort, we primarily focused on the convention phase of this, did have a long track record of working with conventions and things like that. but i think one of the other things that i think kind of a little jumbled up in the media is that president trump and manafort weren t particularly close. i don t think that president trump really knew much all about paul manafort s background. these were not two men who would hang out, grab dinner or lunch or chat. but to the point the president constantly saying he hires the best, that seems to imply he knows who he s hiring. your argument seems to be, well, he didn t really know this guy even though he went on tv multiple times and talked about what a great guy he was. well, he got a mulligan in this one. but what s the one thing donald trump knew about paul manafort, which was that he worked for viktor yanukovych. that was basically his only client for years. and the fact that he worked for yanukovych, the pro-putin politician in ukraine, was good enough for donald trump. that tells you something in and of itself, no? but i think the one thing that president trump knew is that paul manafort had convention experience. in the 80s. in the 80s. 30 years ago. but it s been a long time since there was a real convention fight. keep in mind it had been literally decades since there was a real convention battle within republican party politics. that was something paul was able to speak to. he wasn t being brought on for any policy matters or any grand strategic vision. he is someone who was going to manage the convention. that was the value he was demonstrating at that particular time. all right, jason miller, jeff toobin, jennifer rodgers, thanks very much. up next, the president s trip to florida and his flight from any tough questions or any place he might encounter any tough questions. we re keeping him honest on that. as, breaking news in the fight over firearms that you can make at home with a special pri printer and the plans a court tonight just blocked from getting out. the legal battle and the role the white house played in this with 3-d printing guns ahead on ac 360. nourished hair. better color. keep it comin love. if you keep on eating, we ll keep it comin . all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. you shouldn t be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia s add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. add-on advantage. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that s why we re providing half off family lines to all military. to help prevent another stroke. so, i m doing all i can to stay in his life. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. chicken! that s right, chicken?! candace new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat. mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! well, it is july 31st and that gives us an opportunity to point something out. the white house has only held three press briefings all month. now, these things used to be common enough that they were actually called the daily white house press briefing, which meant daily. now you can call them nearly extinct, which makes what you re about to hear kind of odd. give a listen and ask yourself, does this sound like a promise? we re here. we re taking questions. we re doing everything we can to provide regular and constant information to the american people, and there is a responsibility by you guys to provide accurate information, and we re going to continue to try to work with you. well, she said that may 9th. that entire month, there were nine white house press briefings. in june, just five. this month, only three. so tell us what was that again? we re here. we re taking questions. we re doing everything we can to provide regular and constant information to the american people. everything they can do to provide regular and constant information. everything they can do. see, for a minute there, it sounded like sarah sanders was actually promising to provide regular and constant information to the american people. keeping them honest, we asked her why she promised the people one thing and is doing the polar opposite, but we simply haven t had the chance, because there have only been three briefings this month. if you d like to ask sarah sanders about her promise, take a number. if you d like to know what president trump thinks about michael cohen s allegations about the trump tower meeting, get in line. if you want to see the president challenged about why the white house lied about the president not being involved with wanting to buy karen mcdougal s silence after audiotape shows he actually was, sorry, you are out of luck. and the same goes for false and misleading statements like this one just yesterday. the president tweeting a highly respected federal judge today stated that the trump administration gets great credit for reuniting legal families. thank you, and please look at the previous administration s record. not good. the president neglected to point out that the judge admonished the administration for essentially making orphans out of kids. that s the beauty of the twitter machine. you can omit, you can rephrase, you can make stuff up. whatever you want, and no one can challenge you. last year anthony scaramucci, the new white house communications director for those ten glorious days, refused to commit to regular white house briefings. he s gone, but it sure looks like his idea is gaining traction at the white house today. president trump left for his trip to florida this afternoon without saying a word to reporters and in case you re wondering, that is par for the course. with the exception of his jount appearance alongside italy s prime minister yesterday, the president has refused to answer reporters questions 16 times in just the last six days. thank you, everybody, thank you. thanks, guys. thank you. mr. president, sir, is michael cohen lying? did michael cohen betray you? mr. president, did michael cohen betray you, sir? mr. president, why did you cancel the meeting with vladimir putin, sir? well, that s what we re seeing more and more of, unanswered questions and fewer chances to ask them. and in the meantime, the president reportedly is itching for more occasions like he just finished up at tonight, rallies where he can say whatever he wants and hear nothing in return but applause. our jim acosta is in tampa for us tonight, joining us now. so, this lack of transparency, is there any other reason they re doing this other than the fact they don t want to answer questions about, for instance, why the president lied and why the white house, why the campaign, i should say, lied, not knowing about karen mcdougal and ami and the deal? anderson, i think the only thing you can conclude, and you re going to hear some folks here, i think, letting their feelings be known at this rally here in tampa, about how they feel about cnn. but anderson, i think the honest answer to your question is that this white house is obviously hiding from the press. they re hiding the president from the press. they are hiding the press secretary from the press. that s the only conclusion you can come to when they ve only had five press briefings in the last month of june, and only three press briefings this month. i mean, that is historically at a very low level. now, one thing we should point out, anderson, at this rally tonight, the president went after what he calls fake news. he even talked about fake polls, even though he touted a poll that he said that he had seen saying he was the most popular republican president ever. it s hard to understand how you can have fake polls but also tout polls showing you being popular. but anderson, despite the president going after the press, he just hadn t given us opportunities to ask him very many questions. and i think there really is no other reasonable conclusion other than they just don t like the questions that are going to be asked right now. you know, i ve been trying to talk to white house aides about this, and one of the things you hear, and they ve said this before in the past is that, well, when the president has a speech or when he has an event, they tonight want to step on the message of the day. well, the president had a speech tonight, and so there was no press briefing today. it is possible they could have one tomorrow, anderson, but we just don t know at this point. yeah, i mean, so, there s no idea when the next one might be held? say that again? there is no idea, it s not a schedule when the next one might be held? you know, i think it is possible. i m pushing these earpieces in my ear just to hear you, anderson. i think it s possible they could hold one tomorrow, but aides are being very cagey about it. one thing they ll talk about as they have these off camera gaggles when the president is traveling down on air force one, and that sort of thing to various events. but as you and i both know, anderson, that s not the same as having an on-camera briefing with the press secretary coming into the briefing room. you know, we used to call them daily press briefings. they re barely weekly press briefings anymore. and i think, anderson, the only conclusion you can draw at this point is they just don t like the questions right now. and it s amazing, anderson. you re hearing some of the insults being hurled at us right now. i ve been talking to some of these folks this evening, even though they re being pretty negative towards us right now. i answered a bunch of questions from some of these trump supporters here about all sorts of things, a lot more questions than the president has taken from us in recent days, anderson. jim acosta, appreciate you being there. thanks, jim. i want to bring in two new voices. one from david axelrod with long white house experience managing the message. and carl bernstein, who has even longer experience holding presidents accountable, including this one, shares a byline on the michael cohen scoop. david, every white house certainly, look, has had their issues with the press. have you ever seen a white house that has had this many issues with the press? well, i ve never seen a white house who has had many, many issues, not just issues with the press, but every this is a precedent-shattering white house. and particularly when it comes to issues of transparency and disclosure, starting with the president s refusal to release his tax returns and running through a whole series of things. i think the important thing, though, here is beyond not answering questions about michael cohen and the probe which are uncomfortable, we ve also seen the practice suspended of briefing people, briefing the press when the president speaks to foreign leaders. we are only americans are only finding out what the president has said in their name from reports from foreign governments. it s two weeks later. we still don t know what was said between him and vladimir putin. i mean, there are fundamental things, bits of information that the american people deserve, and, you know, the bottom line is this president doesn t believe that he has any obligation to share that information with people. he calls the press the enemy of the people. he conflates his political interest with the public interest. and he thinks that reporting is a hostile act. yeah, the fact is, we re not even sure he has told his secretary of state or the secretary of defense exactly what was discussed with vladimir putin in that meeting. it s not clear from their own from, you know, pompeo s testimony, that he really has a fell readout from the president. carl, do you you fought with many white houses over the years trying to get your questions answered. nixon s press secretary had a famous adversarial relationship with the press. how would you compare then to now? i think it s far worse. the really great thing that s happening is is that news organizations from the washington post to the new york times to cnn to the ap to reuters are doing some of the greatest reporting that we have ever seen on a presidency. and the result is that the american people understand what the facts are. they can make up their own minds about it because of our reporting. the idea that somehow we would expect this president, this presidency, this administration to be anything like open or transparent or honest or truthful at this stage of the game is absurd on our part. and we re doing the right thing by doing our reporting. donald trump is the president of his base. he makes no attempt to be the president of all the people of this country. and part of appealing to his base is to make the conduct of the press the issue rather than the conduct of donald trump and his presidency. so that s where we are, and the great part of this, as opposed to the part that we ought to be terrified about, is that we re doing the reporting. and that s really why he is so upset, why he is so furious, why he is going to ground the way he is, because we have raised the questions about what is truthful, particularly about his relationship with putin, particularly about his relationship with michael cohen. we ve raised the questions. they re out there, and the people of this country know that they re out there. david, to carl s point, it s not just about making the press the enemy, it s making nfl players the enemy at times when it suits the president, or making, you know, undocumented immigrants the enemy, or whomever it may be to suit the president s needs at any given time. i want to ask you, though, about comparing to the obama administration. because kaitlan collins was barred last week from attending an event in the rose garden at the white house, didn t like questions she asked. obviously the white house has issues with cnn and their coverage. there are those who say, look at the obama administration. they didn t always give the same access to fox news as everyone else or the same number of interviews. to that, you say what? is that a fair comparison? i don t well, no, i don t think it s a fair comparison, because they never barred fox reporters from doing their jobs. i talked to fox news reporters all the time when i was in the white house. they asked questions at presidential press conferences and so on. i don t think it s look, as you pointed out at the beginning, every president is irritated at times by their coverage, but most presidents understand that that is part of the obligation of the job. that a free press is enshrined in the first amendment for a reason. but i just want to react to one thing that carl said. it s not just that he s using the press as a foil with his base. he is trying to impeach the media, so that when facts are reported that are inconvenient to him, he can dismiss them as political in nature. and that, to me, is a very insidious thing. that s really, you know, that is the stuff of autocratic states. and so, while i agree with carl that the reporting has been aggressive, it s been thorough, it s been critical, there still is concern about a president who doesn t really believe in a free press. and carl, it is not just the lack of press briefings. you know, the president himself still hasn t directly answered questions about why his campaign lied about their involvement in trying to buy karen mcdougal s rights the rights to her story from a.m.i., which the campaign claim they had no knowledge of, they knew nothing about the deal, nor has he answered any questions about your reporting that he allegedly knew about the trump tower meeting in advance. this president and this presidency and this white house has no interest in the truth, as we have known it in every other presidency. this president and this presidency has an interest only in its own propaganda, its own lies, its own version of events that have nothing to do with real existing information. you know, i went to jack kennedy s press conferences, starting with his third one. i was copy boy at the time. and if you were to go back and watch him and every successive president of the united states, including richard nixon, you would not see anything comparable to the lying, to the unavailability to being open and transparent, such as we have seen in this presidency. this presidency and this president is unique. we have never had anything like this in our history in terms of disinformation. yeah. misinformation, and an attempt to undermine the truth at every turn. not just in a criminal conspiracy like watergate, but about everything. carl bernstein. david axelrod, thank you so much. coming up, a federal judge makes a decision on the 3d printed guns that have been causing so much controversy. and after the president tweets, the white house and the nra have very similar statements about the undetectable and untraceable guns. the latest next. on the shelf. or even. out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us. and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we ve been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer. thank you for trusting in us. then. and now. does your business internet provider promise a lot? 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yeah, in terms of the law thanks for having me on again, anderson. appreciate it. this is a nationwide ban. so, what it does, it takes us back to a period of time before the federal government flipped on their policy regarding these 3d ghost guns. what it means is, if anyone posts this information online, they re in violation of federal law and can suffer very serious consequences. so it makes it unlawful to post that information and make it available to the public. why did the government offer a settlement to allow these blueprints on the internet in the first place? do we know? wasn t it the state department that stepped in to prevent them from being posted online? that is a very good question, anderson. and truly, it s baffling to me and many others why the federal government made this decision. and just to be clear, to your point, there has been a court case going on texas in which the obama administration and the trump administration opposed this entity down in texas from making this information public. the state department filed declarations, talking about the national security risk and public safety risk of any process, no procedure, no nothing. they caved on a case they were winning and allowed this entity to go forward. it s truthfully breathtaking, and the risk to public safety is hard to overstate. yeah, cody wilson, the man who invented the first 3d printed gun, told cnn today that despite your suit, he has already uploaded plans for the ar-15 semiautomatic rifles have been downloaded more than 2,500 times. how concern ready you? and is there anything you can do than? once it s out there, it s out there, isn t it? so, i am very concerned about that. and every american who is be should be very concerned about that and the president of the united states should be very concerned about that. and he can put a stop to this right now. he should tell his attorneys to stand down in this litigation and allow us to declare victory in this case and move forward. so, yes, some folks have been able to access information, but obviously, anderson, if it s allowed to go forward for days, weeks, months, many more thousands of people would have access to it. we want to limit that damage and we re very thankful our judge here in seattle granted our request for a restraining order to shut this down nationwide. this notion from the white house and the nra that, quote, regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. so that you say what? well, i d say, why are you fighting me in court then? we re going to court to go back to a time in which it was illegal to do this. the u.s. government was in court today saying no, the entity should be allowed to post this information. so once again, we have an administration, we have a white house where the left hand doesn t know what the right hand s doing. they re not communicating in concert with one another. there is nothing new about that, anderson. i ve been on your show many times and i ve now filed 32 lawsuits against this administration. in ten cases, we have decisions. i won all ten of them. one of the reasons i ve won all ten is because this administration can t keep their story straight. they re sloppy. and frankly, they re dangerous when it comes to public safety. and that s why i m so relieved judge lasnik took the action he did today. attorney general bob ferguson, good to have you on. thank you. president trump took to twitter, telling his followers there was no collusion with russia. this is, of course, a day after his private tv attorney, rudy giuliani, said the same thing. we re going toe have an examination of that just ahead. only imagine. d a peaceful night sleep without frequent heartburn waking him up. now that dream is a reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? 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a strategy of desperation, if a strategy at all. collusion outright may not be a crime in and of itself, but anderson, treason is a crime. collaborating and conspireing with a hostile foreign power against the united states is a crime. receiving material support, clandestine material support from a hostile foreign power is a crime. and we get to the people around trump. moneylaundering is a crime. tax fraud is a crime. lying under oath is a crime. so, there s plenty of crime to go around. but what trump and giuliani and all their paladins have been doing is doing their best to blind the american people, to overwhelm us with various forms of diversion and obscure data, to cloud the issue, to muddy the waters. pick your cliche. but for me, as someone who genuinely cares about this country and who doesn t give a damn about either political party, for me, there is one core question facing our country today. one paramount question, and that is, has the president of the united states committed treason against the united states, specifically, in service in t thrall of some sort to vladimir putin? i hope i m wrong. i hope it didn t happen. we ll see what robert mueller brings to the fore. but we must focus on that question and not be diverted by clownish antics, because trump is a brilliant entertainer. in a peculiar way, he may be history s greatest entertainer. he commands global headlines every single day, and we make a mistake of thinking about him as a politician or a leader when he is an entertainer. and by allowing ourselves to be constantly entertained, we lose sight of fundamental ethics, values and security of this nation. you talk about him as a propagandist and a very effective propagandist. yes. not only the simple catchphrases, but repeated time and time and time again so that they just become normalized. it s also part of it s not just about repeating phrases, it s also used as a diversion. yes. to take you off focusing, take the american people, the media, whomever, their eye off what s really happening, what really matters. yes. and anderson, consider what a brilliant move it is to attack the press as the enemy of the people. instead of having the spotlight on trump and his alleged misdeeds, on his daily misdeeds against this country, it turns against the press, the press as the enemy of the people. enemy of the people is a loaded term. it does go back to roman times. but in the modern era, the first person i can find who really used it is robespierre in the french revolution. as a student of russian affairs, it s the enemy of the people in russia. under stalin during the purges, if you were called an enemy of the people, it was a death sentence. and given all of trump s other ties, to russia and things russian and people associated with russia, it hardly seemed a coincidence that he calls our press the enemy of the people. and anderson, our press is not above criticism. sure. it s made of human beings. human beings are flawed. i have when i thought the press deserved it, i have criticized the press fiercely, but i hope constructively, because without a free press as our founding fathers recognized, democracy cannot function. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, always good to have you on. thank you. thank you. i want to check in with chris and see what he s working on for the top of the hour. chris? peters makes you gulp. talking about, you know, stalin. it s pretty yeah, and it s just weird that they re using the same phrase. so, tonight, we re going to take a little bit of a different tact on this issue about collusion not equaling a crime. i actually think that the media got out over its skis on this, and i think we re missing the forest for one tree, and i m going make the legal case today. and i think it s mostly common sense where you can start with where we re hearing from the trump legal team right now, but still wind up looking at a whole garden basket of potential criminal activity that stems from this. so we ll lay out the case. we re also going to take on the man who wants people to be able to make their own 3d guns at home. he is going to make the case to the audience as to why. and we are going to test it, my friend. chris, your screen getting bigger and bigger, your white board there? ah, yeah, it is, actually. i have two white boards. sometimes either that or you re shrinking. yes. i am i am slimming. i covet the board. kind of look alike. from here-down. from here up, much better. an capitol hill, the top officials were peppered with questions about the trump administration s separation of families at the border. one official said family separation was not part of the policy. coming up, i ll talk to a senator that was there. chicken?! chicken. chicken! that s right, candace new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat. mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that s why we re providing half off family lines to all military. you shouldn t be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia s add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. add-on advantage. ordinary stains say they 2 can do the job, s. but behr premium stain can weather any weather. behr premium semi-transparent stain and sealer, overall #1 rated, weathers it all. find our most advanced formula exclusively at the home depot. where we re changing withs? 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no, sir. we were advised that family separation was not the policy. he had raised concerns about the policy there. well, that s interesting he was told that because here s attorney general jeff sessions on fox news talking about the policy. are you considering this a deterrent? i see the fact that no one was being prosecuted for this as a factor in a fivefold increase in four years in this count of illegal immigration. so, yes, hopefully people will get the message. it was intended there as a deterrent. jeff sessions said it. so did john kelly on camera. at the hearing was minnesota senator amy klobuchar. when he tried to get some clarification about the family separation policy, even he was told it was not the policy. i mean the standard answer from the government, how do you square that with the world actually seeing the separations as well as multiple members of the administration describing what they say as not a policy, as a deterrent. well, it s very clear when you listen to the leadership, the words you hear from the attorney general, from the chief of staff of the white house, that they did view this as a deterrent. but the problem is then they re using kids as a weapon. and i was at the border, and the families i met, some of whom had been reunited, all they wanted to do was to get back to their mom. a little 10-year-old boy and his mom, she had fled honduras as a victim of domestic violence. and then to have her child yanked away from her at the border, didn t know if she would ever see him again. and he said, well, i knew i d always see my mom again because she d find me. those are heartbreaking stories, and that s what we heard today at the hearing. and it s very clear to me that there were some people of good will at those front lines whether they were people that worked at the agencies, whether they were the like sister norma from catholic charities who runs the operations down there in mcallen, or the volunteers that came from all over america with good hearts to try to fix this. but it should never have happened in the first place. there s certainly been a lot of reports, stories about what the detention centers holding the kids were like. today we heard this other description from an i.c.e. official who said this. i want to play it for our viewers. i think the best way to describe them is to be more like a summer camp. these individuals have access to 24/7 food and water. they have educational opportunities. they have recreational opportunities, both structured as well as unstructured. i mean you ve talked about having been to the border. i m wondering what you make of that summer camp description. this is not what i heard from these families. one pair of siblings who were separated from each other, one went to florida. one went to texas. they described themselves as being cold. they described themselves as wanting to go and see their parents again. and you still, anderson, have 711 kids that have been separated from their parents. over 400 of them, they can t find their parents. you know what the difference is between summer camp and this? you go home to your parents after summer camp. there s also been reports of kidding being given psych oh tropeic drugs without a parent s permission. i don t think that happens at summer camp. no, it does not. did anyone ask that official if he would send his children to summer camp to that kind of a summer camp? those kinds of things were asked and we got some vague answers. there was one official from hhs, commander white, who clearly said that he told his superiors he was concerned about the psychological effect on these kids. and he also said, you know, this was a policy that we applied to unaccompanied minors. but these kids were accompanied. they weren t accompanied by their parents. this announcement from facebook today that they shut down a disinformation campaign that was targeting the midterm elections. you introduced legislation aimed at trying to prevent election interference this past fall. are you happy with how facebook handled this? i m glad they came forward and said what we believed is true and that is the russians are still trying to do this, or it looks like russian accounts because they re similar to what they had before the election. one of them had nearly 300,000 followers. these same kinds of ads that are trying to turn americans on each other from controversial issues, from immigration issues, and they re doing it again. that s why we have to pass this
consciousness on a moment we have an exclusive report on a series of attacks by far right gangs on the roma community in ukraine what is fueling the violence and apple becomes the first privately owned company to top one trillion dollars in market value the latest milestone for a company that began in a good project forty two years ago. and a new report says that google is secretly working on a sensor search engine for the chinese market that include global block controversial search terms and leave out certain websites from its search results. the only place. players. i m sorry kelly welcome to the program. zimbabwe s election commission is set to announce the winner of the country s presidential vote after under arrest in exile in the capital harare opposition leader nelson chamisa claims to be the legitimate winner of the presidential poll but says that the results could be rigged to favor the incumbent zanu p.f. emerson among. international observers have appealed for calm after security forces killed six protesters last night today police raided the headquarters of the opposition movement for democratic change. the police called in sealing off the office of the movement for democratic change or m.d.c. they say they re investigating its presidential candidate nelson chamisa and others for inciting violence after yesterday s deadly demonstrations chamisa repeated his times that incumbent president amas and then get the polls and then he cling to victory for himself things he summoned up one note that is lost this election if it won this election is a little bit you know no longer. just a day earlier so she has cracked down on the protests in the capital harare a period of about four days so really the only thing the time in which they must make their announcement these claims of rigging is. clearly superposition or the fix on the ground ok but we have to mention just to counter that that international observers they ve also urged you to to release the results a bit earlier because there has been tension in the country i d like to talk a little more about that tension because you know you ve been on television today a bit earlier and i d like to talk about something you said you blamed the opposition for yesterday s deadly violence and i d like to ask you if that s fair because there are reports that the military used to live ammunition to disperse the protesters and people are dead today. i was not present so i cannot respond on behalf of the military what i will the noise that. the m.d.c. . the m.d.c. alliance. actually terrorizing people the actually damage to our parted indices aware that it is lost to the election if they want to contest the election we have good legal procedures which they can no bill to them so they can approach the conditional court within the timeframe is given and contest we would defend ourselves because we nor that we have won this election properly and feel it is the people of zimbabwe who are the judges is to which of the two presidential candidate is the most popular our leader is popular because since he took over power he has been delivering on the wishes of the people he has a year he has sold a program of development program or kicking the ball with forward a program of modernizing our economy a program of creating employment in the country and this program resonates with the interest in the wishes of the people of zimbabwe so just quickly before we go and you just said there that the m.d.c. lost the election we know that the presidential results have not been released yet we are told by the electoral commission that they will begin releasing those results at ten pm tonight are you willing to say on our air today that they you won the presidential election well i cannot say we were in the presidential election and two is confirmed by the electoral commission but just by their votes. counted to see their political elections will tend to be inconceivable and and reasonable for anyone to think that we could win two thirds majority in the political election and then proceed to lose the position election it is quite clear that just going by that logic alone we must have won the position election but we are waiting for the sick to confirm paul monk wanna spokesperson for zimbabwe zanu p.f. party we thank you so much for joining us this evening a tense time there in your country and we thank you so much for sharing your view on the situation. thank you. thanks let s turn to some other news now because the european union is marking roma holocaust memorial day and remembrance of the hundreds of thousands of sent roma murdered by the nazis and hispanics european commission vice president to monks said that since he and roma people still face racism and hatred on a daily basis indeed recent weeks roma people in ukraine have found themselves under attack from right wing groups one man was stabbed to death in front of his wife connelly traveled to western ukraine to speak with his widow and two other victims of violence. this is how we do it began in april twenty eighth far right huge mountains protect the roma count the ukrainian capital kiev copycat attacks soon followed across the country in late june twenty three year old david pop was stabbed more than a dozen times in the western city of movie if his death provoked an outcry inside and outside ukraine s borders the teenage suspect a noun custody but how could this have been allowed to happen and what has become the survivors. where in the village where david pappa grew up from here it s just a matter of kilometers to ukraine s western frontier with hungry it s a backyard the region is home to ukraine s biggest rent a community many of them live in extreme poverty since the attacks people here have become wary of strangers and it s only with the help of pasta filled your photographs that we are allowed in to take says to me david perhaps we do you know yes it s the first time she s spoken publicly about her husband s murder. he said when those teenagers came to attack our camp they didn t say a word they just started going at us with their nods i beg them there are children here but they just started attacking us even more viciously my husband was lying dead in front of me after that i lost consciousness. on the day of our visit the boy received a call in the police interview asking her to testify in court she refused the fish she says was too great since the attacks police have responded to requests from community leaders to step up their patrols and roam a district. court about the roma community leader and a local councillor in the past most of his work was about helping burma people gain access to basic government services many here don t even have a birth certificate let alone a passport but in recent months he s been confronted with a totally new set of problems as the victims of the attacks come to him looking for support. i don t understand where this hatred comes from we ve never seen anything like this kind of open discrimination these kinds of attacks or action what we need to get around to solving the roma communities problems now are not just kick the can down the road. miroslav takes us on a visit to rob a bank or a roma community on the edge of the shadow. there we meet claro a survivor of one of the attacks in libya. these old people and children they smashed my brother in law s head in and just left him for dead but i don t want the attackers to go to prison prison doesn t make people any better they were just kids after all that s up it. up the day it s a point of view we hear time and time again whether people here are ready to forgive or simply fear further escalation we can t get a clear answer as we continue our walk through red bunker with miroslav the atmosphere suddenly turns there s been a break in the local church and. suspicion this fall and the inhabitants would disapprove the community will move so if he wants them they ll give it all back. someone broke into the church. so you have pictures. we never do find out how the investigation ends but now the police leave iraq and go without making any arrests at a time when the roma community needs the police to protect the most never relations to the enforcement attempts remote places mission. and it s not just in ukraine that roma and sinti people face discrimination for more on this let s bring in george yvonne of each he s the president of the european roma rights center and he joins us now from novi. and george as we just heard there we just saw documentation of violence against sinti and roma and ukraine what can you tell us about the situation for these groups in other countries. the reports from ukraine but from other countries are well give us a lot of war is that. raise in europe we see very high official from european member states government giving statements in which they openly promote and support them as an example in the book area of fashions that is convinced on the anti hate crime against roma for calling them animals get to be a deputy prime minister of the country and as the biggest irony he gets to run the national council for the integration of minorities including those people that he called animals at the same time italian interior minister silvio calls for the roma act next census promises cleaning of feet. of their own a presence openly express regret that he context felt italian. because they are protected as italian citizens in such a political climate we see that a direct consequence is that human rights and even the rule of law is not respected last week we had a perfect example of that in rome where the local of. around three hundred roma on the street from their houses providing gold tentative accommodation and aghast actually the order of the european court of human rights which says that dispy people can be weak that so the discrimination as you ve articulated there exists not only on the streets but also in the halls of government and i d like to know because you obviously study this would you say that it s increasing yes and as i said yes in last year and this year we actually see dead. creasing in whole europe. so what needs to be done to counteract that to combat discrimination. so what my organization is doing is litigation so we take our asses to the courts we five for respect of human rights and rule of flow but this can be done in this elation because as we saw in this example of the word the authorities you can order a direct order of the european court of human rights that show us actually that whole european union has to change the european union has to insist on all its members to respect european values and that means respecting minorities including those most vulnerable like koroma because you know the most european countries actually develop a very nice papers on integration policies for roma what is missing is actually a real implementation and a real political will to the roma and not using them as cave goats for the populace statements so how do you build that political well well you know and your goal which is to promote equality for city and around what do you see as the main challenges we need to do to promote equality we need to promote understanding between people we need to understand why someone is different why someone has a different life experience and we need to work to raise awareness of this long lasting youth discrimination of roma which exist since they came to this. continent and are lost a long lasting discrimination is actually one of the main reasons why we still see so many differences between roma and non roma in our earth societies judge of out of it president of the european realm of rights thank you so much for joining us thank you. well now it s over to helen humphrey and we re talking about a major business milestone it absolutely is a moment of history of course sara on thursday apple became the first company to be valued at one trillion dollars now the i phone makers market capitalization briefly pos the market kind of challenging to actually visualize this enormous number with well thirteen digits not just to get an idea of that massive some apple is worth almost as much as indonesia s g.d.p. which stood just above one trillion in twenty seventeen if someone who want to spend one trillion dollars i ll give it a go they could buy more than one billion brand new i phone ten s those start at nine hundred and ninety nine dollars in the united states i want to bring in safety shipments here on this now our correspondent on wall street and sophie many people say that the success of our poll is also down to the fact that it can enforce high prices were essentially i mean we re addicted to off. how long can the company keep that up. yeah i think that s a crucial question has been that the i phone a really any apple product has always been more than just a laptop or a phone and it is still after that day if status symbol design used to play a big role as well and apple has had the reputation of the number one visionary in the industry back then with steve jobs even more a bit in the past fierce competitors have caught up and offered just as advance products for less money and in some quarters the numbers have shown signs of slowing demand for i phones maybe not every quarter but cook is getting the company ready by focusing on services and turn them into a more important source of income but then again according to the earnings we saw this week consumers are just as willing as ever to purchase high priced products so maybe the psychology basically is still working for apple here and let me quote a morgan stanley analyst who says that innovation led to price increases historically boost apple demand let s look at this in regards to the bigger picture that so you see what will the trade will mean for. well first of all china is a very important market for apple china revenue has been rocketing on strength i phone ten the company has just reported nine point five billion dollars in revenue that came from china making for a nineteen percent jump since this time last year on a call with investors after the quarter earnings report investors expressed concern that the recent round of proposed tariffs could impact apple s market share in china but the c.e.o. always emphasized the company s position that terrorists can have unintended consequences for consumers and the economy but he did not say what s the any mpeg the new set of tariffs on two hundred billion dollars and good could have on apple products and then i would like to remind you off the special treatment president trump has granted tim cook when he said that the u.s. government would not levy tariffs on i phones assembled in china so i would say so far at least investors on wall street and wall street are not too worried here so he should be for us in new york so he thank you. china s foreign ministry says it won t be blackmailed as the u.s. turns up the pressure in that terrorist disputes with the as you called for an conference rather getting underway in singapore asian nations already preparing their contingency plans and searching also trading partner. a free trade agreement signed by sixteen asian countries by the end of the year this is the ambitious plan for destroying the albion missing in singapore. the move comes after the united states withdrew from the trans-pacific partnership the new agreement with u.s. participation would leave china at the helm. trading system which has underpinned growth and prosperity is under pressure it s important . to support the multilateral system and work with like minded partners. of corporate. co-operation is needed the gathering is taking place amid continuing bad news for members of the association of southeast asian nations the us just announcing plans to raise its latest round of tariffs on two hundred billion dollars worth of chinese imports from ten percent to twenty five. as part of china s growing export supply chain the nation stand to lose big in a trade war making it display of unity and swift progress towards a new agreement all the more important. but over sarah now it s there the cost of doing business with beijing or perhaps the cost of not doing business with beijing in fact because china of course for now and for its historic great wall building started on the mammoth fortification back in the third century b.c. to protect china from invaders well these days china also has another wall that is known as the great fire wall of china it s supposed to protect chinese citizens from undesired foreign influences first set up back in two thousand the great fire wall blocks access to certain websites and certain terms that the chinese government deems dangerous any whiff of criticism of the government or terms that refer to the student massacre in tiananmen square in one thousand nine hundred nine for example are prohibited in the past the tech giant google has spoken out against such internet censorship in fact that s why it pulled out of china in two thousand and ten at the time google s co-founder said the following are objection is to those forces of totalitarianism our hope is that there is progress and a more open internet in china so that was then this is now and how times have changed eight years later google reportedly secretly planning its return a new report from the investigative web site the intercept says that the tech giant has a team secretly working on a new censored version of its search engine for china and earlier spoke with the author of that reports the intercepts ryan gallagher we asked him what he discovered about what is called project dragon-fly google s secret effort to get china back. yeah well basically drug inflight is the project name for. an underage google has developed for smartphone users in china the idea is that it will give them access to a censored version of google that is compliant with the ruling communist party regimes censorship controls over information that people cannot access on the internet in china and google is trying to get back into china. using the censored up that people will be able to access once it is launched at the moment is a. google idea was to have it ready between the next six to nine months it s a warrant but we ll see what happens and the story that we published yesterday through a sponsor in the works so we ll have to see how it develops and that was right gallagher from the answer saft a short while ago turkey has threatened to retaliate against the u.s. after washington sanctions on some of its government officials the sanctions are in response to the detention of american pastor andrew bronson who was arrested in the wake of the failed coup in twenty sixteen despite the bullish stance from ankara turkey as currency sank as the sanctions came into force. effect of the u.s. sanctions on turkey can be observed over the course of just one day as the dollar rises in value. the euro has fallen even further we re lucky if it doesn t fall further than ten leave. i just know that milk and eggs have become more expensive gas is more expensive and so is a bridge that your brand the divide between nato partners u.s. and turkey is deepening interior minister who himself was hindered by the entry ban tweeted this someone who belongs to us in america for too long and we will take him back so you was referring to the islamic preacher who fled to the u.s. after president declared him responsible for the twenty six thousand attempted coup president trump on the other hand is worried about this man u.s. pastor andrew branson seen here in turkey last week as he was transferred from prison to house arrest three months after the attempted coup in dance and was arrested on charges of terrorism we ve seen no evidence that pastor bronson has done anything wrong and we believe he is a victim of unfair and unjust detention by the government of turkey. the u.s. government blames the turkish justice and interior ministers for branson s incarceration those ministers u.s. assets have been frozen and in turn foreign ministry said that the threat of sanctions from the usa would not remain without consequences. you re watching t.v. news still to come on the program we meet syrian refugees living in fear and lebanon beirut says that it is ready to send many of them home just by the risk to their lives. but mark coming up after a short break i m sara kelley in for lent i hope to see you can see. the sapphire ranch in madagascar are. gender hunters work for starvation wages. risking their lives in a legal minds. driven by poverty in dallas is destroying the environment and the consequences are devastating. to get start mining treasure island. on double. paned for. the language courses. video or. anytime anywhere. w. . sarno just couldn t get this song out of his her. music ologist began searching for the source of these captivating sounds. deep in the rain forest in central africa. the bank of. england. and the looks of the evil. money little. did. culture the state. promised to. the jungle and returned to the concrete and glass jungle. the result reversed culture. from the forest. welcome back to news i m sarah kelly in berlin our top stories police in zimbabwe have sealed off the headquarters of the country s main opposition party after its leader claimed that he had won the country s presidential election the electoral commission is set to announce the official results later this evening and the european union has marked holocaust memorial day in honor of the brome and cindy people murdered during the second world war warns that roma and still face persecution around europe today. as well lebanon is stepping up pressure on syrian refugees to return home so one point five million syrian refugees are currently in lebanon and officials there have repeatedly said that s putting the country under strain hundreds of refugees have returned to syria in the past few weeks but many more are afraid of what would happen to them if they went back to that your correspondent. traveled to the town of. or she met a woman who fled syria the assad government killed her husband and son she and her children fear for their lives if they return. it was not a royal. undertaking but the mother of eight and grandmother of three children was forced to flee his syrian home. to take refuge in the. just across the border. although it happened five years ago the memories are still fresh this is my son her husband and eldest son were killed in the syrian war. at the beginning of the uprising protests were not violent and they were peaceful but my husband was killed because he took part in the my son was with the regime army doing his compulsory service and the syrian intelligence service killed him because he deserted other the. huda fears the assad regime but the pressure from lebanon to leave is building some three thousand syrians have already registered to return there but i can never go back to syria. she is especially worried about this man goes in via is a member of the syrian committee tasked with collecting the names of bill in return is and sending the list to damascus for approval. suspicious that the government mitali the lives of those who protested against the regime and arrest them upon arrival other refugees are worried they will be denied permission to return but gholston denies the charge. it s not a condition not an issue of approval and it s just about informing the government of the names of the people returning. he claims syria is now safe and to convince us he asked one of the refugees who ve applied to return to talk to us do you want to go back of course what s keeping me here but it doesn t go quite as he and the so much so he is confronted by angry syrians. back to syria safely is impossible. he shows his broad scars the military to this white house that i live. by lebanon s government is eager to talk one off million syrian refugees so many say they may be forced to look at europe again. and her friends are among those thinking about making the journey to your other but they know that it won t be easy but the risk of reprisal by a soft security forces is high and. one of the ladies has just heard of the arrest of her sister by the syrian regime. i want to migrate to europe for the future of my children and i applied to the u.s. that they didn t help me other than i m going to have smugglers want an eight thousand euros for the trip and i when i see the film is a lot more than a field who that doesn t know what she would do yet and many here are facing a similar dilemma. it may be too soon to say if there will be a second wave of refugees to europe but the conditions are right. for now despite all the hardship google s best bit seems to be levanon if the lebanese go to a state. god knows universal health care system has been described as one of the most successful on the african continent but services are largely contained to urban centers people living in remote areas often have no access to medical care at all just north of the capital across the expanse of lake volta its shores are home to thousands of fishing villagers who access health care whose access to health care depends on infrequently visiting volunteers. dr ino. and his colleagues a setting off to give medical care to people on an island in the vast lake volta it s a risky venture. you know what i have a lot of stumps. and sometimes the both sky will to hit the stumps and the cup size . the doctor and his team will be treating fishermen and their families mortality rates among women and children here are well above the country s average childbirth and malaria other biggest killers anal comes here in his free time normally he works at a hospital on the mainland he in one of a doctor look after one hundred thousand people in germany the average is four hundred doctors per one hundred thousand. so that s one of the stamps at it i think . this emerged tree stumps are from the time before the manmade reservoir was created in the one nine hundred sixty s. the boatman familiar with the water is still is the vessel safely through the partially submerged hazards. after an hour s journey the team arrives on the island is home to nearly twenty thousand people iraq is their only doctor and he could only visit every few weeks there s a clinic. for our new clinic. he can t always see all the patients in a single visit. and often there s not even a mobile signal here to call the doctor in an emergency. worrying about how. patients a trio the outside the clinic first inside tends to the ones in greatest need many of them pregnant women. hopefully now he s better equipped to treat them. just a few days earlier the government sent him to do a crash course on how to perform complex dynaco logical operations at a hospital down river in battle. a lack of highly trained specialists in ghana means general practitioners life enough are expected to fill the gap. doing hysterectomies yes that s a very right are still. that we have to live with that if i lose it but at the back of our stations. if a woman haemorrhages after giving birth a hysterectomy is often the only way to save her life in uk encountered this once in the far north east of the country but couldn t save the new mother the woman didn t stop living i do found it interesting. if i knew that if i knew the skills that i have now i ll go i would absolutely live. she died. most highly skilled medics are drawn to ghana s few big cities and more than half seek work abroad where opportunities and wages a better battle is feeling the effects of this brain drain. back on the island in like volta a knox already managed to treat more than forty patients next up is three year old versioning he has a high fever and is so. weak he can walk. one of. the rapid test for malaria is positive because that s how this now woman is and everything and us have been done so for now we would take that in the boats back to them in a. week early the time of year otherwise that. would rule that. the intravenous infusions the child urgently needs are only available on the mainland but he ll have to wait a little longer to get them. by late afternoon has treated more than sixty people for others the time ran out and then have to wait until his next visit. to the vote four weeks from now doesn t manage to get through the last few hours and is now being taken for malaria treatment at a knox hospital. let s go. they leave just in time. the boatman can easily spot the stumps in the water but it s getting dark a by the minute when they reach the mainland delusion will finally get to the hospital where he not thinks he has a good chance of recovery. to sweden now and ellen heiress and made headlines last week when she staged a one woman protest at stop the deportation of an asylum seeker back to afghanistan she was on board of a plane about to take off from gautham bar but she refused to take her seat preventing the plane from taking off she live streamed her actions and earned plaudits for her bravery and caught up with her. when ellen arsonists people these days her protest against the deportation of one of her friends dominates the conversation people all over the world still congratulate her when she refused to take a seat on an airplane she prevented the man s deportation from goteborg to afghanistan even if only temporarily that it was thought that there were a lot of video from the plane made international headlines emerson wanted to draw attention to what she feels is sweden s inhumane asylum policy. we are not giving the correct legal procedure they have the right to we are the government and the migration of this are doing so much things that possibly can just to make sure that they deport and react as many people as possible. anderson belongs to a group that looks after former unaccompanied minor refugees from afghanistan. the young refugees are optimistic that swedes like ours and are prepared to use civil disobedience to prevent their deportation. here for good i also should have been deported i launched an appeal against it. i ve been waiting a year for a decision it might even take another year if i were to then be deported i will have lived in sweden for four years i really don t know how i would react to that the nurse in case has fueled debate on asylum and immigration in sweden parliamentary elections are coming up in september and surveys show increasing support for right wing populists but there are also those who welcome refugees. simply stop the night is government should put a stop to immigration. and everybody will need immigration in sweden because we need the workers i will certainly not vote for any party that is against refugees and immigration and. the biggest opposition party the conservative moderate is outraged over the acclaim arison has received for her activism. follett s who doesn t here in sweden it s not the government that decides on deportation. it s about it s the courts does. it and it s not acceptable for individuals to define court decisions. through all the holes in her suit but as long as people being deported to afghanistan risk getting killed harrison says she wants to continue her work she feels this is her. in life so even if we guess but stuff think the flirtatious to afghanistan then i believe that probably they still together and i hope so because they are part of my life not. their sinhalese for an interview with a british radio station the debate over deportation to afghanistan continues in part thanks to ellen emerson. well now could the humble banana cure our addiction to plastic ellen humphrey has the answer of course sounds curious but something s got to sort out right there because of course if we don t cut back on that use of plastic well the u.n. estimates that by the year twenty fifty they ll be more plastic than fish in the sea if we don t change our ways and i knew damned well the government is implementing a ban on plastic shopping bags and now a group of women are using the nano fiber to make paper bags instead. plastic bags are a common sight in uganda but not at this restaurant in the capital kampala instead of plastic bags known locally as cover the management here uses paper bags . and we are very very environment friendly and we do not want to use going out and contaminated the environment so. there s definitely reliable which is not only for us it s for our children and for our grandchildren and much more than. uganda is planning to implement a ban on plastic shopping bags this year and to replace them with biodegradable paper bags. this has encouraged a group of local women to start making paper bags using locally available banana fiber. at most farms and uganda banana fiber is considered a waste product. but this group is using it to make paper. cut they re using this is out after the cutting with them after the. real will blend them like for five minutes. they turn into a pole we put them into a big container with water leave them on screens we drain this green through if i bust on top and the water drains out through the holes then we hung it in the rocks to dry. the fibers left to dry in the sun for at least six hours before it turns into hard paper. the women carefully hand craft the material into a range of products. these include paper shopping bags books and greeting cards. produced. on five thousand cards that were produced. for us so different people come here they see their product the order form in we produce and send them in kampala their main clients are craft chops restaurants and supermarkets the women hope that the plastic bag ban will create more opportunities for them and neighboring them to expand their market and to protect the environment. but on the average german sixty here grams of meat every year almost all of it wrapped in plastic or total tupperware cases could end that customers take them home and get a new one next time in the supermarket chain. this german supermarket wants to wave plastic wrapping goodbye customers now have the option of buying their meat and sausages in environmentally friendly reusable boxes to avoid plastic waste. because i think it s great people should prevent waste wherever they can it is a good it s a good idea if you can follow it on these people also brought their own containers to buy flour sugar and other things. they didn t need plastic then. nowadays it s overrated. question if you will he doesn t like many people are against the green movement they say one person can make a difference but it can turn into a mass movement with a lot of impact that our. customers start by buying a box for their meat and sausage purchases they return the box when they pop in for the next shop in exchange for a new clean one. the project is a matter of personal ethics for the supermarket manager. mcconnell just tell you the full industry i introduced it because i m convinced we need to change. it we have to change new approaches and we found a strong partner in the w w at. coles myer in a store here by the north sea and we have to do something for sustainability with the something has to be done. the most has to see. if the project proves to be a success it could soon be introduced all over germany. let s back over to sara now and just a warning prepared to get a song stuck in your head at. the teacher. levy our. chat chat chat chat chat chat. he. gave me a path that led chaldean. micheline summer head of the year here in germany this is the song that gets everyone on the dance floor are in the clubs and around the country at the moment and joining us here in the studio to tell us all about this song that we just heard is robin merrill so we first have to talk about the song of last summer that is of course desk which you simply could not escape is this one just as big i don t know how it could possibly be actually because a distress eater i love i was looking it was number one in forty seven countries and to date it s had five point three billion hits on you tube nothing gets close that s the biggest thing on new nobody s near ever by any means however the two songs do have something in in common by the fact that they stick in your head but also just for seats it was written by two puerto ricans it was done in a solo latin pop and reggaeton way this is equally sort of a multicultural in this is for original allien folk song made famous in a spanish streaming series and remakes and this is the hit by a french d.j. called wonderful make sure styles and yes very signaling is we re back to see. every year has a smash hit summer song. a way that savage. this new clap remakes of child by french d.j. is the feel good hit of the year. and i. played. really well. stefan movements also knows a lot about hit single the berlin music producer has worked with beyonce and quincy jones. summer songs have to be fun and not too sentimental. and they re probably only good for one summer and so my. balance chalo was written in the late nineteenth century as a protest by the women who had to toil away harvesting rice and italy. in the second world war a version with new there it s become an anthem for the resistance to fascism. and it s not a summer song as such and it is a bit more serious in tone but the words bella and chow are something everyone can sing along to and the rest has a nice feel to it. and suddenly people around the world are singing bella child. about to be just. a fascist and some transformed into a sing along summer smash. get it bad. bad that s. bad that s out sad. joke. it is a little catchy so but it was really a netflix series that i got the all star was it was a spanish series the english soccer was is money heist is about a guy who take over the royal mint in spain that s for the print money steal the money and stop printing it billions as well for themselves meanwhile the series become as i watched norm english series ever netflix and the song is a light motif throughout the facts and let s just hear the gang boss and press. so far as he s gold one of these gangs singing them much more i have to say atmospheric. suffice it to say that the series was ridglea actually had an ending it s been so popular that actually they ve extended it for another series and there are going to be new amazing highside expect from. us so i can say that this guy and this song is not going away much like many of us myself included would like to go away around and. we have another summer hit that we have to talk about this is one that s inspired a dance challenge and yeah this is drake s single in my feelings i m an american comedian called shakey actually we think he started off you never quite know on social media but he started doing a dumpster it in the middle of the road now now it s taken on a large design in the region celebrities and his pitch is this is will smith on top of a bridge in the one daring capital budapest doing the kiki challenge as it s cold but also people started getting at was that their call was while their car is still moving and dogs into the song account are thought i mean looks a lot of fun and obama but also it could be a little bit dangerous so drake is thrilled about the challenge but not about moving calling saying kids be careful and yet. in the dog kiki challenge just as cold that s the song for you ok isn t very nice song let s hope that they don t get so popular that we get sick of them. robin merrill want to find out more at our website did a good dot com slash cultural robin thank you so much. soccer news now and one of byron munich s newest signings was formally introduced to the media on thursday he formally played for shaka and is also a german national team member. he s that byron s bavaria training camp in southern germany he talked about how much he thinks he might be most effective for the school. has been said i m actually fairly. well soccer authorities are considering changing the format of penalty shoot outs to make them fair and reduce the pressure on players going second the name of the new system has been inspired by a very well known swedish pop band but will the beautiful game decide to take a chance to find out. fresh off the back of a world cup which saw plenty of penalty shootout drama young german players a trialing a new system. with research revealing the side going second in a shootout loses sixty percent of the time a new format has been devised baby also known as ever sees things take alternating pairs of penalties off to the first spot kick. to often high new teams have a style the winner takes it but what if they make it the new system. is supposed to say it s good because in the old system the team going second was under greater pressure which could make them lose and this system if the first person misses his teammate can still level the school and with that you are up to date now on your news i m sarah kelly in berlin thank you so. it s all happening no job of a few going. to link to news from africa the world story links to exceptional stories and discussions can you and will come to the defense after killing program tonight from funny to me from one uses easy to our website i didn t need a smash africa joined us on facebook at g.w. africa. time for an upgrade. how about furniture that grows all by. a house with no roof. or design highlights you can make yourself. trends tips and tricks that will turn your home a special. upgrade yourself with d w s interior design channel on you tube. how to cover more than just one reality. where i come. we have a transatlantic way of looking at things that s because my father is from germany my mother is from the united states of america and so i realized fairly early that it makes 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not russia, though russia looms large in the background as it seems to in everything else these days. manafort s being tried in federal court in alexandria, virginia. he was, of course, trump s campaign chairman, ran the rnc convention. it s the first of two trials for him, and this one he s looking at 18 counts of bank fraud, tax evasion, conspiracy charges in relation to his work for a pro-russian party in ukraine before he went to work for the trump campaign. he has pleaded not guilty to all charges. this trial is off to a lightning start. so far a jury has been seated. opening statements have been delivered, and a witness has testified, all on day one. manafort was a march to august chairman back in 2016. he helped trump secure the nomination, make no mistake, and trump said so at the time. i have fantastic people. paul manafort just came on. he s great. he didn t need to do this, but he wanted to. paul manafort has done an amazing job. he is here some place where. is paul? however, more recently, as manafort was awaiting trial, the president sought to, shall we say, diminish his former campaign chairman s role. i know mr. manafort. i haven t spoken to him in a long time. but i know him. he was with the campaign as you know for a very short period of time. i tell you, i feel a little badly about it. they end with back 12 years to get things he did 12 years ago. you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. he worked for me, what, 49 days? a very short period of time. manafort is the highest ranking campaign personnel so far. he was part of the trump tower meaning when donald jr. and jared kushner had the russians come by. also tonight multiple sources tell us robert mueller has referred another group of investigations to federal prosecutors up here in new york, the southern district of new york. those sources say that former lobbyist tony podesta, former minnesota republican congressman vin weber, and former white house council greg craig are all under federal investigation. the sources also say the inquiry into tony podesta, whose brother john ran the clinton campaign of course stem from mueller s investigation into the case of paul manafort. as the special counsel and his team continue their inquiries, the president is now embracing a new line of defense. as we covered here last night, and as floated out yesterday by rudy giuliani. this morning, trump wrote on twitter, quote, collusion is not a crime, but that doesn t matter because there was no collusion except by crooked hillary and the democrats. let us bring in our lead-off panel for a tuesday night. josh gerstein was inside the courtroom today for today s proceedings. he is senior white house reporter for politico. also our very newest msnbc contributor. Brian Williams examines the day s top political stories and current political-campaign news. Brian Williams examines the day s top political stories and current political-campaign news. pretty judicial? yes, it is more fair to appear in a suit than an orange jumpsuit. there is no reason to humiliate him in that way. there is enough happening in the courtroom as it is. i want to comment on tad devine quickly. i think it was very smart. part of telling the jury the story is to tell it in a compelling way, and to tell it in a way that you put your witnesses in an order so you can protect your witness who is going to have the most problems. and that s gates. so here they start with tad devine. he is a very elegant, soft-spoken, nice person who said nice things about mr. manafort that was elicited. and it allows the prosecution to be appeared to be being fair to mr. manafort and to start and to overview the story in a way that is isn t bombarding them, but is getting the point out. i think it was very smart. and it s smart to put a couple witnesses in front and behind gates who are unimpeachable to kind of sandwich him in. and that was a very good start to the day, i think. you re also smart to know that this is, after all, story telling. and you ve said the same thing about mueller, that this will be a tapestry, a story he will tell when we look back on whatever book gets published, the mueller case writ large, do you think today this trial is the forward? is it chapter one? well, i think it s the i think it s chapter one. mueller has this huge charge to look into, and it s this huge elephant. and you have to eat the elephant, right? so what do you do? you take a bite. you to take something small. you to take something easy for your first bite. and a paper case on a tax fraud would be the first bite of a very large elephant. for my fellow animal lovers, we have thus far deceased an ostrich and an elephant by my count. so sam, let s strike a note for press freedom. sure. here we are in the last night of july. we have had three white house on camera briefings in the month of july, a total of 58 available minutes of on camera briefing time. what are we watching happen here? so it s beyond it s not just that chilling number which is chilling, you know. we had instances in which a reporter was restricted to going to an open air white house briefing event. we had the president deliberately avoid interacting with the white house press corps as we makes his way to either his motorcade or to marine one. and we ve seen this happen under the new leadership of bill shine, who seems to have a very acrimonious relationship with the media, or i should say doesn t particularly like the idea of the media questioning his client, the president. and i think what s ended up happening is donald trump has decided it s in his strategic interests to essentially cut off access, to cut off the hard questions because they might trip him up. and it s happening right as the mueller investigation is heating up, of course, as this trial has gone, but also as tough stuff like child separation policy has come into the forefront. and unless there is some sort of price to pay, if they continue to think that this is in their long-term political interest, i m not sure anything changes. in fact, i think it could even get worse as we go through august. so it s chilling. it s been a long time coming, and, you know, the press corps has to figure out how to penetrate this bubble somehow. and i m open to new ideas, and i hope they are too. all right. we ll stay on it. and big thanks to our starting three tonight. we re hoping josh does not rue the day he signed up to help us cover this trial where days are long in alexandria. so to josh gerstein, to cynthia askney, sam stein, thank you so much to all three of you. thank you. good night. coming up, from our report in the trump rally in tampa tonight, this is critical. from a special correspondent who went there for us to witness his first trump rally. and later, more fallout from the trump family separation policy. new reporting on the trauma separated families are facing, after they are reunited. we re just getting under way on a tuesday night. raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things allergic reactions to your doctor right away. in patients with sickle cell disorders, serious, sometimes fatal crises can occur. the most common side effect is bone and muscle ache. if you d rather be home, ask your doctor about neulasta onpro. pay no more than $25 per dose with copay card. is the fact that it s very, very tough on bacteria, yet it s very gentle on the denture itself. polident consists of 4 powerful ingredients that work together to deep clean your denture in hard to reach places. we re going to have tremendous border security that will include the wall, that will include the wall. now a lot of people don t know it, but we ve already started the wall. we got $1.6 billion, and we ve started large portions of the wall. but we re going to need even the way we negotiate, we re going to need more and we re going to get more. and we may have to do some pretty drastic things, but we re going to get it. that would be another hint at the government shutdown. that was president trump rallying supporters on border security tonight in tampa. we should point out as we always have to the president s border wall has not been started, just repairs to an older section near san diego. the president spoke for over an hour on a number of issues, including the economy, including his contention that merry christmas is under siege no more, including trade immigration, the supreme court, voter id, and shopping for food. we believe that only american citizens should vote in american elections. which is why the time has come for voter id, like everything else. voter id. and if you go out and you want the buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. you need id. you go out and you want to buy anything, you need id, and you need your picture. in this country, the only time you don t need it in many cases is when you want to vote for a president, when you want to vote for a senator, when you want to vote for a governor or a congressman. it s crazy. that was the kind of thing tonight, and during the rally, the president also heaped praise on republican congressman ron desantis who is running in florida s gubernatorial primary. with us to talk about it, david jolly, former republican congressman from florida, represented the tampa metropolitan region. he attended tonight s rally in tampa, and now we can say among other things he has been to a trump rally. also with us, lisa lehrer, national politics reporter for the national press. congressman, i am very interested to hear your takeaway from your first rally, and chiefly, what television doesn t convey about a trump rally. so i think some of the story lines are what we are used to. perhaps the national story tomorrow is really the chanting and attacks on the free press, and frankly, your colleague jim acosta other at cnn. a viral video that is now going around. the real verbal assaults, if you will, to the press. that was absolutely on display. we also saw the energy in the crowd when donald trump would address immigration matters, and frankly, anti-immigration rhetoric, if you will. also mentions of hillary clinton excited the crowd. all those bread and butter issues. brian, what was most remarkable to me, though, and probably the thing that i will never forget, and i am wrestling with tonight is how homogeneous the crowd was. and we can decide whether or not we want to assign culpability to the president for cultivating a constituency that tonight was 99% caucasian, working class, or is that a broader national conversation we need to have. but i ll be honest with you. and i gut check myself. i asked friends and i asked other folks in the media, look around. how many african americans, how many black americans do we see tonight? and you could count them on one finger. and some of them were specifically positioned for camera shots. this was a white working class audience. to donald trump s credit, they felt he was speaking for them, not just to him, but he was speaking to their anger. that s the one thing i wrestle with. look, the tampa bay community is a very diverse community. i represented a very diverse community. i walked into a rally tonight that was probably the most homogeneous environment i ve been in decades. i m curious. how many people recognized you? obviously you re from there. you re republican, but you ve been highly critical of this president. so i certainly received some criticisms from those who said i needed to be softer on the president. i could also have a conversation tonight, though, about how different media platforms divide the information that we receive, because long-time republican supporters who have not heard some of my criticisms because of where they receive their news today, they were not aware of my criticisms of the president. and so they treated me as a friend. but certainly there were those who wanted to know why i was there, questioned my intentions. look, i was there out of respect for those who support donald trump. i don t support him. i remain a republican, and i was there to learn from those in attendance. i leave tonight in a strong disagreement as i arrived, but it was important that i attended. well, thank you for that assessment. lisa, in many ways it was a standard trump rally. just when you thought he was on the edge of being rooseveltian, he talked about actually taking office and realizing he was president. i made some notes here. he talked about washington, and he said i know the great people. i know the scum. so i figured okay, so not so rooseveltian there. did you hear anything new tonight that he may take out on the road? i mean, it mostly did as you say seemed like the standard trump rally. it continues to be striking to me how much the president wants to run on immigration in these mid terms. that really is the central piece of his message, and it s one that me believes, rightly so, resonates with his base. but i suspect what he may not be taking into account is it also resonates very strongly with democrats. so while drivie ining up his ba could help in the senate map which is sort of tilted toward republicans to begin with, in the house it gets a little more complicated because a lot of the battleground is in the suburban districts. and by continuing to talk about these divisive issues like immigration, like the potential for a government shutdown, along with the, you know, never ending series of news about the investigation, you know, about controversial remarks, every one of those headlines is an additional shot of adrenaline into an already energized democratic grassroots. so what we ve seen is protesters have become volunteers, are likely to become voters. and that level of enthusiasm is something that scares a lot of republicans, particularly when they look at the map in the house. lisa, how concern ready you? is the associated press to your knowledge about this other dynamic that david talked about? one of the viral videos of the abuse jim acosta of cnn took from the crowd we had to blur what people are wearing. we can t play what they re yelling at him. eric trump retweeted it. the president retweeted eric trump s tweet of the video. they were called fake news repeatedly tonight. what s the level of concern? well i think everybody is concerned. i thought the times publisher ag sulzberger made a really god point over the week. as you know, there was this back and forth after an off-the-record meeting with the president became the president made it public. he pointed out that the threats matter of course in the u.s., but more importantly, trump is giving cover to dictators across the globe who want to suppress freedoms in places like syria, in places, you know, like the philippines, places where it s really hard and very, very, very dangerous. and really, you re risking your life to deliver impartial information. that to me seems to be the biggest danger to the press globally. and that certainly a trend that is not being helped by the president s rhetoric. congressman, you get the last word. steve schmidt left the party. are you still a republican? for now, but i m always one day away, brian. what we saw tonight was a big tent republican party. unlike the big tent conversations we had in the past ten yearsing whether or not there was room for moderates, tonight we saw a big tent that invited in extremists, the wikileaks crowd, the seth rich crowd. this is a different republican party. and, you know, there will likely be a day some time in the near future perhaps on your show where i join steve schmidt in making a statement very much like he did. well, as for tonight, you are our special correspondent of the trump rally. thank you, brian. and our correspondent lisa lere. we thank you so much david jolly and lisa lerer of the associated press. coming up, the white house resume they re is now put to rest, done and dusted, at least for tonight. that s next when we continue. know what? no, what? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that s a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can t argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. it s these new fresh-fx car air fresheners from armor all. each scent can create a different mood in my car. like tranquil skies. armor all, it s easy to smell good. oh! oh! ozempic®! 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(vo) ask your healthcare provider if ozempic® is right for you. to keep our community safe. before you do any project big or small, pg&e will come out and mark your gas and electric lines so you don t hit them when you dig. call 811 before you dig, and make sure that you and your neighbors are safe. retired general and white house chief of staff john kelly has agreed to remain in his job, putting to rest for now the monthly, weekly rumors of his departure. as was first reported by the journal, kelly shared the news with west wing staff yesterday. quote, kelly said he had accepted president trump s request to stay in this job through the 2020 election as tensions between the two men have eased in recent months. the rumors reached their peak in april when nbc news reported kelly was struggling to bring order to the west wing, referred to trump as an idiot multiple times. kelly was referred to openly by multiple members of the press dead man walking. it happened to be the same day a year ago president fired his first chief of staff, reince priebus, via twitter from air force one, famously cutting priebus loose on a rainy tarmac. the white house as openly weighed replacing kelly in recent months, and as with all personnel matters in the trump white house, circumstances could change and kelly may not end up staying in his job through the 2020 election. considering he serves at the pleasure of a president who often acts on impulse and whim. with us to talk about it, co-author of that piece, robert costa for the national post. robert, anyone we have of your ilk this late in the broadcast indicates we have a lot of news on a night like tonight. your story among the pieces of news. we have been hearing, i have been hearing the president has been polling friends and associates really recently about replacing kelly, including floating names. he has been. he has established a rapport with his generational peer in general kelly. they bond as people who have shared grievances about members of the media, about different political rivals or enemies, but the president has not been eager to make an immediate move, but he has talked to associates about mick mulvaney, nick ayer, chief of staff to vice president pence, and even other options like secretary mnuchin, close to the son-in-law jared kushner and senior adviser, has been mentioned by some trump allies. could be akin to president reagan in the late 1980s bringing in don regan. but for now the president is sticking with john kelly. we know that did not go well with don regan, especially if you ask nancy reagan back at the time. you have written a story tonight about the koch brothers. it was really extraordinary to read criticism of the koch brothers by the president this morning. the headline is trump feud with koch network exposes rift between populist forces and establishment gop. you re a broadcaster yourself. give us the viewers guide to this fight. the koch brothers have long been a power in republican politics. they gathered in colorado over the weekend. david koch has since retired from that famous koch brothers political partnership, business partnership. but charles koch, 82 years old, is very averse to president trump s trade policies, some of his other policies, economic policies, though he does like the tax cut, as most business people do. and because of the tariffs, the president has been pushing, he has been telling republican candidates if you stand with president trump on trade, then you risk not getting the koch network endorsement, which is very powerful at times, providing grassroots support, advertising support. this has vexed many congressional republicans who feel that though the president is not a traditional conservative, they would like traditional conservative support in such a volatile midterm year. robert, what s your thought on how closely this white house this president who is, let s say, a more avid television viewer than most will follow the proceedings across the river in alexandria in the paul manafort trial? as you were talking with josh gerstein from politico, it s really hard for the president to follow this closely because television cameras are not allowed inside, even reporters are not allowed inside. it s reporters scribbling on notebooks that lack of media attention on television could be a challenge for paul manafort as he tries to catch the president s attention. in federal prosecutors, washington post believes manafort is playing for a part. but if you re playing for anything with president trump you almost have to appear on television. that s during his executive time is when he really digests the political news and thinks through his strategy for the day and for the coming months. you remind me, i should tell our viewers more often, because it s federal court, there are no cameras and we will be relying on courtroom sketches through the duration of this trial. our great friend from the washington post, the very able host of washington week on pbs, robert costa, thank you as always for coming on with us. thank you, brian. coming up for us, 98 days out from those midterm elections. what facebook found in its midst and took down. tonight the company says they re up against, quote, a determined well funded adversary will never give up, when we continue. the fact is, there are over ninety-six hundred roads named park in the u.s. it s america s most popular street name. but allstate agents know that s where the similarity stops. if you re on park street in reno, nevada, the high winds of the washoe zephyr could damage your siding. and that s very different than living on park ave in sheboygan, wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? 98 days before the midterms. most of the content seemed to be focused on left-leaning causes. it included ads opposing president trump, and ads supporting the abolition of i.c.e., the customs enforcement agency. officials say they deleted pages referring to an event called no unite the right 2, supposedly being planned for next week in washington. facebook says the activity is consistent with techniques used by the internet research agency. that would be the kremlin-linked group indicted by the special counsel earlier this year. on capitol hill, lawmakers were united in their condemnation. it s not certain, but what looks like a russian agency trying to manipulate our elections. what we re looking at in social media is an effort by the russians and potentially other adversaries to create social chaos, to divide america. i can say with pretty high confidence i think this is russian-related. these are absolute attacks on our democracy. i will be introducing thursday a sanctions bill against russia. it will be the sanctions bill from hell. let s talk about this from security and business perspectives. with us tonight to do that, robert anderson, former fbi assistant director of counterintelligence. also happens to be the former executive assistant director of the bureau s criminal cyberresponse and services branch where he was responsible for all criminal and cyberinvestigations worldwide. and stephanie ruhle, the veteran of the investment and banking world and host of the 9:00 a.m. eastern time hour here on msnbc, and for good measure, the 11:00 a.m. eastern hour here on msnbc. welcome to you both. robert, two-part question for you. are you convinced this is the russians? and is this a teaching opportunity for those of us who look at this facebook page and see that it s anti-i.c.e. and realize that too is russia? that s the way russia tries to foment division? yep. great question, brian. one is i believe it s absolutely russia. and i think the bigger part of this, what people need to be looking at, because we re talking about the attack on the dnc in 2016, and now the attacks here on facebook, which they deleted today around 32 pages of compromised accounts is russia never left. they didn t leave after attacking us in 2016. they sat right here, and they formulated a plan of how they could attack or try to divide the country in 2018 two years later. and here we are. and when people say we haven t followed up on our intelligence community assessments, this is what they re talking about. stephanie, full disclosure, i have a family member who works at facebook. having said that, isn t this the world that mark zuckerberg wanted? and how on earth to you corral the wild west? i m not going to feel bad for mark zuckerberg. this is the world he created, and maybe it s a frankenstein. maybe he created a monster. and yes, it is extremely difficult to corral it, and facebook is bringing in all sorts of allies and partners and the fbi to address this. but nobody s crying for facebook here. to the point he just made, these cyberattackers never went anywhere. they were there before the 2016 election. they remain there today. and while it s our gargantuan problem, facebook has a gargantuan amount of money to address this. and with facebook not being regulated, you can say all day long if people on the hill are united this their condemnation of facebook, but they re not forcing face bill clinton to do anything or regulating them to do anything. facebook could shut it down tomorrow until they have this thing solved. what would you shut down, though? there are pages going up tonight that look innocuous and just like robert would see as being russian in their invasion. you don t understand the monster you created. we re 98 days away from the midterm elections. and to cheryl sandberg s point that. don t even know where this is coming from. knowing the threat it is to our american democracy, do you really need to look up what your ex-boyfriend is doing these days and where he is going on summer vacation? maybe not. not until we address what the exact problem is here. it s not like facebook doesn t have the money to do it. robert, i need you to chime in here. i tell you, i think it s a tough problem. social media is a huge attack factor for all nation states now. you ve got to think about if this has gone on in facebook, trust me. i don t care if it s russia, china, iran or any other adversary we face. they re watching our response to this. i ve said this before on this program many times, brian. russia s like a bully on a playground. the more you let them push you around, the more they re going to push. there are some people in this world that don t understand please and excuse me. and you re looking at them right now, tonight. if all americans knew what you knew, robert, about russia, would any of us get any sleep tonight? well, i don t know if we d get any sleep, but i think we d be more focused on it. the thing that really bothers me and i think it bothers a lot of americans tonight is we ve been talking about this in the government and in the united states intelligence community, and quite frankly, in the social media private sector for two years. we should have been ready for this. nobody is shutting down their facebook pages. you re not seeing advertisers pull out of facebook en masse. the fact that these cyberthreats are this massive, but people still find them disconnected to their everyday life, we re not acting like we re afraid. you cover business a fair amount. you came from that world. to borrow a phrase from earlier in this country s financial history, when facebook gets a cough, the tech economy catches a cold. and we ve seen the drag on tech stocks, because i watch you on television. what to do about that portion of this? listen, facebook, google, apples of the world have done so extraordinarily well, i wouldn t be scared about what s going to happen to people s stock portfolios. but has the day come for these companies to invest millions, possibly billions of dollars in to becoming more responsible entities? without a doubt. and if that s going to cost them some money, i think the market can withstand it. robert, the world of facebook is so vast, i m just trying to think of real world solutions short of a shutdown. is there a worm that can detect the incoming creation of a page that could nip it in the bud and kill it during the birthing process? the problem is brian, there is a lot of different software that creates out there that we put on cybercompanies or clients of cybercompanies to detect malware. the problem is when that malware is reverse engineered and changed almost by the minute i know days by bad guys and bad gals around the world, it becomes useless. so i think what you re looking at, i agree with what stephanie said earlier quite frankly. the day has come where there needs to be a partnership between the government and private sector companies to protect the country, and there needs to be a conversation to talk to how we can do this. stephanie ruhle, you ll be talking about this tomorrow morning? 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A precursor to Fox News s morning show, featuring the news and first looks at the other stories of the day. in court today charged with attempted murder. he was out on bond for a weapons charge. put the man police a friend to shoot a congresswoman set to face a judge today. carlos is accused of leading voice mail for the majority whip and caffrey kathy mc mars rogers, they told him, quote, we are going to feed them led, make no mistake, you will pay. scalise nearly killed last year after a gunman opened fire at a republican baseball practice. jillian: donald from rallying the crowd in the keystone state out of his economic success, slamming his opponents and calling for a government shutdown. rob: drumming up support for lou barletta s senate bid. reporter: in classic form, in maxine waters, very low iq. running against pocahontas or crazy bernie. i saw him up there the other day. that hair is getting wider and wider, he is getting crazier and crazier. reporter: the attack on the media was a centerpiece of the rally message. we are doing better in all of these states than we did on election night. despite only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there. reporter: donald trump surprised many when he won in 2016 which is why this race for the senate seat is a big prize this november. barletta trails by double digits. it will be an uphill climb but the president going back to the arena he has gone to in the past. todd: pocahontas, crazy bernie is now sleeping bob. he loves the nicknames. donald trump using his rally to encourage voters to go to the polls in november as the partisan gap grows wider. the midterm elections offer the once forgotten men and women a chance to make their voices heard again. we have a chance for a historic election to give the american people and honest choice between a radical extremist democratic party and the progressive wing gradually being destroyed by radical extremists or they can try to appease the elites. if they run district by district campaign they blues the house. it is impossible in the modern era, rush limbaugh approved of it. 435 districts every day. republicans are going to win the fight, when the argument, all the issues on their side but the question is do they have the courage. the midterms 95 days away. todd: mike pompeo with his counterpart overnight demanding an american pastor held captive be set free. the two speaking privately in singapore. pompeo is hopeful something will get done. pastor andrew brunson is facing terror-related charges while under house arrest, the white house is not budget and economic sanctions on turkey after they refused to release him. jillian: a newcomer claims victory in the gop primary for tennessee governor. bill leads beating out three republicans to get the nod. one of them congresswoman diane black was favored to win, karl dean in november. congresswoman marsha blackburn easily winning the gop facing tennessee s former governor, democrat who won by a landslide. todd: 9 minutes after the hour. we are just hours from the july jobs report. american workers get their biggest pay raise in more than a decade. economist peter moricci with why trump s economy is bad news for the democrats in the midterms. you cannot say the press is not the enemy of the people. it is ironic that not only you in the media attack the president for his rhetoric. jillian: hot off the press, sarah sanders and jim acosta, how the fire exchange ended. have no answers. america is winning again. last week we announced that the us economy grew 4.1% last quarter, nobody thought that was possible and if the democrats got in, that number would be 1.2, it could even turn negative. jillian: will the jobs report due out in just hours add to the president s successes? peter moricci joins me now. thank you for being here. what do you expect in the next few hours? 210,000 jobs which is in line with what we averaged the last several months with an expanding and growing economy. jillian: that is the number we have seen the last couple months, 213,000 jobs created in june 2018. do you expect this number to plateau? we should not expect to see bigger numbers, and at that pace of growth, gradually getting people off the bench and that is people who weren t in the job market, who were really to start looking again. pulling a lot of minorities and disadvantaged people. people who might have a black mark on the record, people with criminal records, this is a very robust job market. people with some experience, opportunity to switch jobs and jillian: it is a nice number and you have critics out there saying american people are not seeing a difference. what do you say to the critics? what else are the democrats going to say? donald trump has accomplished 45% better growth then democrats did. he is averaging 2.7% a year. barack obama averaged 1.8, 1.9. the record is stark. all they can do is make up fake news, that there is great unfairness in the country and every mainstream church wagging a newspaper in people s eyes, not just the media saying there is terrible unfairness in america. the reality is a lot of the raises are going to people at the bottom and people who didn t have opportunities before have opportunities. we are going to make it so you don t have to work. we give you guaranteed annual income. we have an economy where nobody works, borrow money from chinese and democrats will get elected that way. i don t think that is a winning formula. jillian: what do you think these numbers mean as we head into the midterms? good news for the republicans. unfortunately the republicans don t always have the strongest candidates. in a special election coming up on tuesday, when things look dark for the republicans a lot of people bail. it was hard to recruit the kinds of candidates, now we are stuck with what we have got. democrats raising a lot more money, hollywood on their side and silicon valley on her side. and the rich and wealthy went to dupe the poor into keeping them in power. that report, we are standing by to see the numbers. todd: democrats testing a new method to win over voters for the midterms, text messaging, that can work. jillian: kurt the cyber guy with the downside. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it s the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. todd: 21 after the hour, democratic darling alexandria ocasio-cortez hits the city of angels but the socialist star ab too far left for hollywood liberals. according to the hollywood reporter she won t meet with any entertainment bigshot donors. she showed up to an occupy ice lunch. establishment democrats find her too extreme. she has a fundraiser with democratic socialists of america. jillian: ocasio-cortez s victory causing a rise of democratic socialists on college campuses, young democratic socialists of america experiencing a 280% increase from 2016 from 2018. in the fall over 250 campuses registered for a chapter which is the most ever. todd: politicians looking to win over use of voters sending a text message that. todd: fighting that is a got texts and vented mailers donated to campaigns. voters only got mailers. todd: is there a downside to this political spam? let s bring in kurt the cyber guy. when we look at this closely it is a brilliant way for political campaigns to reach people not only for the vote but donations to their campaign. a group of people have been using a similar way, instead of volunteers sitting around calling you and annoying you in the evening hours they will instead text you. hi, jillian, what is going on, who is this? at the end of the day it is much less annoying than getting a phone call according to people receiving this. what happened in tennessee, where it is being sent to the moon? never areas actors, badmouthing, doing political attacks against opponents. it is certainly not allowed. at this point you don t know who is behind it. jillian: there is the national do not call list, don t know if that works for text messages. robot machine, vote for me because that would not be allowed. you are completely allowed to have an individual text you at a time so they created software applications that work for political campaigns, individually texting you. their databases so virtually everything including what nail color you have. we have that information out there, you may have offered it before to a political party. can i do anything to stop this? there is a little bit you can do. once you receive this, you can request as they call you please don t text me again. is a going to be effective? apparently not. the second go around they start to think about removing you from the list. how to remove anybody who is bothering you by text. jillian: including people you know. todd: the final day. jillian: where can we find that? cyberguide.com. jillian: a new clue in the search were missing iowa student as the family of molly tibbetts refuses to give up hope. molly didn t go to work today. at that moment adrenaline shot through my body, something is terribly wrong. heather: disgrace will act calling stone from the grave of a fallen hero. carly shimkus with growing outrage from a goldstar mother. friday the all-american summer concert series eating up, king and country ready to rock the plaza, stay where you are. fox news alert, brand-new clue in the search for molly to its. a red shirt found near the pig farm investigators have been coming through. rob: the family of the missing college student not giving up hope just yet. we believe that molly is still alive. of someone has abducted her we are pleading with you to please release her. todd: that was molly s mother pleading for the return of her daughter who she believes is still around after disappearing two weeks ago. jillian: ted wilson sat down with her yesterday and joins us with that interview. what is the latest information that you know? reporter: i can tell you over my shoulder here is the command center where local, state, and federal law enforcement officers will be converging in this area with one objective and that objective is to bring molly home. they have gotten quite a few clues, some of it they shared with us and hold close to their vests. i want to play some sound from your interview with molly s mom. i was quietly sitting in the public library and approximately 5:15 my youngest son scott called me and said molly didn t go to work today. at that moment adrenaline shot to my body, something is terribly wrong. law enforcement has been essential, crucial. i can t find the words to say what happened. how are you holding up? through some kind of internal strength that is just there. todd: we heard how important hope is during this process, you are there with molly s mom. what did you see in her eyes when you spoke to her? reporter: i saw what i have seen thousands of times as an investigator over the years, someone clutching onto just a glimmer of hope that at some stage in the future they will be able to hug their loved one who is missing. molly s mother s eyes, my heart went out to her. jillian: all of america s heart goes out to their family. in your conversation with molly s mother, do they have any suspicions of their own what may have happened to their daughter? reporter: some do and some don t. i mean some of her relatives have an idea, they believe she is somewhere abducted, that she is alive. they believe sooner or later the person who is holding her, that person will release molly award. take us through what happens of law enforcement identifies this. once they identified the suspect they will bring that person or persons in, look physically over that person because if there are any abrasions, in a fight with the person, and confiscates their cell phones and bring them in, they will do what is done with a digital footprint and find out about the person s background. and confiscate their automobile. one of the most important things they do, and aspect of suspects to take a polygraph examination as part of the investigative process. jillian: the number to call if you know anything no matter how small you think the detail maybe you can call the sheriff at 641-623-5679. thank you very much. reporter: the pleasure. jillian: an exclusive look at the military gear and personal items returned with us marines from north korea, helmets, campaign buttons, from the korean war, caskets recently handed over to the us. also found, this dog tag. it will be given to the fallen soldiers two sons at arlington, virginia. the remains being tested in hawaii after mike pence accepted them on wednesday. todd: sarah huckabee sanders flipping the script on reporters during a fiery exchange in the white house briefing room. the president is rightfully frustrated. 90% of the coverage on him is negative despite the fact the economy is booming, isis is on the run and american leadership is being reasserted around the world. you did not say that the press is not the memory enemy of the people. personal attacks without any content other than anger. the media has attacked me personally on a number of occasions including her own network, harassed, that i should be choked. todd: jim acosta tweeting that he walked out of the briefing room in protest. mark live in slamming the press corps. the dc press corps today is the least professional press corps of my lifetime. they think that their job is to make it impossible for the president to function. as long as they keep putting clowns like jim acosta out there who is a drama queen of sorts, the reaction of the american people. todd: live-in says the press needs to take a look at itself but it won t. as anti-trump rhetoric rams up eric trump is shining a light on how his family has been a target. i have been threatened, we have had white power show up in our house. there is no moral outrage about that but when it happens to them, when they are offended by a message. todd: vanessa trump was hospitalized after opening a suspicious letter with a white powdery substance addressed to her ex-husband donald trump junior. jillian: hundreds of protesters fed up with gun violence take to the streets of chicago. the march shutting down a major highway during rush hour, demonstrators sending a loud and clear message to democratic mayor rahm emanuel, make changes or resign. 16 shots covered up. we are praying today, the mayor and city council, do something different. jillian: gianna caldwell is on the ground with the protestant will join us live in the next hour. todd: democrats blasted by their own party over their efforts to impeach the president. not a single person in the senate democratic caucus has shown the common sense or the sense of right and wrong to support impeachment. jillian: carly shimkus with serious xm 115 with reaction to those comments. reporter: tom stier made his money on wall street, he is a billionaire who became an environmentalist and is founder of a campaign aimed at impeaching donald trump. you heard him calling out members of the democratic establishment who have not backed his campaign but conservatives on social media are responding to his comments, when twitter user rights goes to show you common sense is not needed to become a billionaire. another rights you actually have to commit a crime to be impeached. nora on twitter writing sorry but not liking him is not a valid reason for impeachment. stier pledged $40 million in his business campaign to impeach donald trump. todd: it is about having grounds on which to impeach. really unfortunate situation in massachusetts. the mother of a fallen soldier said thieves have been stealing coins people are leaving on her son s graveyard. take a listen. it just makes me, it makes me sick to think that someone could do that. the mother noticed the coins were missing a couple weeks ago. it is a tradition for people who knew a fallen soldier to leave money on their gravestone. a lot of people on social media sympathizing with this family. i never heard of this tradition but love it. how dare people steal the coins, so much disrespect, such a beautiful young man he was and another twitter user rights there is no accounting for scum who would violate the grave. jillian: 3 girls on horseback going viral. 3 girls in california came up with a unique way to thank firefighters and first responders battling the car wildfire. they are riding past the command center on horseback carrying american flags and a sign it says thank you. it listed their spirits and people in social media responding to this, one twitter user rights that is the country i grew up in and we have to get back to and another twitter user says my hometown, proud of those girls, a simple thank you in a unique way. jillian: i will not get on horseback to say thank you. 39 after the hour, 17 years after 9/11 airplanes are a real target for terrorists. terrorists want to bring down aircraft. they still see aviation as the crown jewel target. jillian: why in the world with the tsa cut security screenings at airports across the country? jim hansen, an expert in hunting extremists, joins us with why he says this could be catastrophic. rob: this video showing a dramatic car rescue, americans help officers. the weather across the country. not a hero the hero in the morning sky - in a crossfit gym, we re really engaged upload your logo or start your design today at customink.com. booklet, travelers, tsa weighing a new plan to stop security screenings at 150 airports nationwide. jillian: critics worry it will or terrorists to those airports. john kelly has this morning. reporter: terrorists want to bring down aircraft to disrupt their economy, undermine our way of life and it works. which is why they still see aviation as the crown jewels target. jillian: joining us with reaction his former us army special forces conducting counterterrorism operations, jim hansen. thank you for joining us. i want to hear what you have to think of this was we were stunned yesterday when we heard it. reporter: it does not seem like a wise move. as secretary kelly said the terrorists have always focused on aircraft. if you can knock an airplane out of the sky or as on 9/11 use them as weapons you create a very normal fear for people. there is something completely not quite right about putting a couple hundred humans in a tube and hurdling them through the sky. we all have a rational fear of that. i have jumped out of them at the same altitude, but the terrorists know that puts fear in us and disrupting that and our air travel system causes massive disruption to people and businesses. it is a great target and we need to keep our eye on it. todd: you can t put a price on human life but for arguments sake, say they came back and said this will save us $100 billion. then there might be a little more of an argument here. $115 million annually. that is nothing compared to the scope of what we pay at airports and how much the federal government has. this is insanity. you can make the case there are plenty of other targets. a terrorist in nice, france, killed 87 people and wounded 450 with a cargo truck. it is not like they don t have other ways to do it but this is the one they focus on. this is the one that given a choice they will do. the idea of saying smaller airports if we go ahead and leave them a little bit foldable they won t go there but the 9/11 hijackers focused on an airport in portland, maine based on the assumption that security at smaller airports would be less. they proved the fallacy in that thinking. tsa needs to accept the fact that we either protect all our airports or none because knocking a plane with 50 people out of the sky is not much less bad than knocking one out with a couple hundred. jillian: a statement from the tsa says, quote, there have been no decisions to illuminate passenger screening at any federalized us airport. you brought up a good point when you were talking about what happened in nice. we saw terror play out in many aspects since 9/11, vehicles on multiple occasions, a lot of shootings, concert venues targeted. just because we are seeing other factors of terrorism doesn t mean you start getting lacks at the airports. i don t think this is the place to make cuts especially for budgetary reasons. let s go ahead and if we are going to secure our air travel system we have to secure it on this go in through the weakest spot and weakest links in the chain. secure it all and look at procedures that are ridiculous at some of the checkpoints but no reason to stop screening luggage or other things. if they sneak a bomb on a plane anywhere in the united states on the us aircraft or anywhere else on the world especially our own us travelers that 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jillian: sometimes it is insane. no one is paying attention. pay attention to this. stores closing their doors for good. todd: tracy carrasco is here to explain why. i found that one jillian: i like brookstone. you need to find another place to get chairs or high-tech gadgets. they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. they will be closing all mall locations, about 100 of them. they hope to keep 35 of their airport locations open but this is all due to declining foot traffic at malls, more people shopping online. another victim of the retail ice age. jillian: they have the softest blankets. reporter: i have a blanket from brookstone. todd: some big guinness news. reporter: the first guinness brewery in the united states in 60 years is opening today just outside maryland. the guinness (worry, not going to be brewing the iconic stout, that is coming from dublin, ireland but they will be brewing the lacquer, they will have a visitor center, task force, you can take tours. this is opening up today, first time in several years. todd: the players are not getting in. reporter: you can taste the imported beer from ireland. they are not doing that iconic status. time for the good, the bad and the ugly. a lot on the line to pool a man from a burning car. first responders pooling the unconscious driver out. he crashed in southern california. jillian: a teenager tried to steal a plane to go to a rock concert, the 18-year-old found bike security arkansas city in the cockpit of an american eagle jet but he doesn t know how to fly. heather: caught red pod, a company named savage seen on surveillance video stealing and amazon package. it was not the only thing savage swiped. he took a pair of prescription sunglasses and a garden hose nozzle the owner did not realize. jillian: all right. chicago protesters outraged over rising gun violence instead of democratic leadership. not everyone believes chicago is a trump freezone. i accept his help. we can t turn any help away. todd: born and 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