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House, including from some of his closest allies, jim clyburn telling me if we don't get the voting situation right now, forget about raffaele being re-elected to hold the majority in many places, and one senior white house told me we understand the pressure from the activist and it's good and healthy but give the president some healthy because he has been showing he knows how to execute a strategy to get change here and the white house views this as a broader fight where republicans need to face consequences at the ballot box, not just in the mid-term elections but in the state races where th...

These votes. >> chris: that is interesting because with the democrats say is this is going to end up being an effort at voter suppression, not to say that is wrong, but the democratic line on this, this it will be an effort to make it harder for people to vote. jonah. >> that is with the democrats say about any voter integrity law because they basically have this theory that even the most minimal requirements for citizens to vote is somehow illegitimate, which has always struck me as ridiculous. i will say, though, to charlie's position, i agree that voter fraud exists. it tends to exist and m...

These votes. >> chris: that is interesting because with the democrats say is this is going to end up being an effort at voter suppression, not to say that is wrong, but the democratic line on this, this it will be an effort to make it harder for people to vote. jonah. >> that is with the democrats say about any voter integrity law because they basically have this theory that even the most minimal requirements for citizens to vote is somehow illegitimate, which has always struck me as ridiculous. i will say, though, to charlie's position, i agree that voter fraud exists. it tends to exist and m...

Texas, right? why do they think that? >> well, what the supreme court decision in june did was to remove texas from the preapproval process whenever we have any kind of changes in our voting laws. and that's not what the obama administration wants. they want to keep their thumb on the texas election system so they are now asking a court to give the obama administration the authority to be able to preapprove whatever election changes we may have, especially our voter id law that we're trying to put into effect. martha: all right. and explain to everybody exactly how that law would change the vo...

Counterparts. i think it is something that happens in a bipartisan fashion. but the sort of racist underpinnings of this redistricting are shocking to people and deplorable. >> well, absolutely, alex, that is why the redistricting law and the voter id law were voted on in the same week, which is unprecedented. texas has become a poster child for voter suppress. that is why the attorney general is starting with texas in terms of what they're going to do, post-section 5 act. you have a world where there is a tremendous amount of change in texas, really at the forefront of demographic change, tha...