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Abolishing i.c.e. this is a whole new world now that we are talking about. if that's of the new demand by democrats, we are not going to get a deal at all. because i don't think the president will ever go along with that. everything i love is listening to politicians in washington talk about, "the only problem with the wall as it doesn't work." are you kidding me? you have 35 years to get this problem fix in your complaint is of the wall doesn't work? why would you -- speech you real quick, you also have two sheriff's group that iw written a letter to congress saying this would leadg released ...

Wall in places where it makes sense to have that, to either fortify or possible build on additional land. but simply building a wall for the sake of building a wall doesn't really make sense. it is not a wise investment of taxpayer money. >> and andy card, you've got a president here who has very poor relationships with people on the hill. i've spoken to senators in both parties who say they don't even know who the legislative team is, who is negotiating for the president. then you had the embarrassment for the vice president as well as for the white house and republican leaders of agreeing to...

>> it does no good to sign an agreement if the party isn't going to comply with it. the piece of paper that's not being complied with doesn't reduce the risk, it doesn't take down that threat. it is being violated by the russians. it's the very agreement they signed up for. we didn't force them into the agreement, they decided this was in their best interest. they've now decided it's not in their best interest. >> former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta is joining me now. sir, thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you, brianna. >> this treaty is a centerpiece, ...

That has. i hope when they get everyone into a big, beautiful room and do a new treaty, that would be much better. certainly i would like to see that. but you have to have everybody adhere to it, and you have a certain side that almost pretends it doesn't exist, pretty much pretends it doesn't exist. so unless we're going to have something we can all agree to, we can't be put at the disadvantage of going by a treaty, limiting what we do, when somebody else doesn't go by that treaty. okay? >> you're looking at president trump there at the white house just moments ago where he's having a meeting...

I think that's actually partially part of the problem, but the real problem is we need something. we're building a lot of wall right now as we speak, and we're renovating a lot of wall. and we're getting ready to give out some very big contracts with money that we have on hand and money that comes in. but we will be looking at a national emergency, because i don't think anything is going to happen. i think the democrats don't want border security. and when i hear them talking about the fact that walls are immoral and walls don't work, they know they work. i watched somebody being interviewed t...