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Called a traitor, or anything else. sometimes whistle-blowers do wonderful things to help our society, and it's not just in government. it's across the board. >> well, before we run out of time, i want to get to this story. i've got to get your take on this new reporting tonight from "the new york times" about the president's ideas for securing the border. this is from a meeting this past march. the president often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. he wanted the wall electrified. after pu...

Extended trial that we saw for president clinton. i think the democrats are going to say that's not enough, we want a fair trial, we want to really examine this. so there's going to be a fight over that. but he's not going to be able to what i call turning merrick garland into a verb, merrick garland the impeachment articles. >> andy carney, you invoked the term guard rails ahead of a forthcoming book about this president and the border. they write, privately the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators. they wanted...

Tonight the "new york times" is reporting new details about ideas president trump has for the southern border. according to an excerpt from the new book "border wars" written by two "new york times" correspondents, privately, the president had often talked about fortifying the border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompt prompted aides to seek a cost estimate. he wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. his staff told him that was illegal, but later in a meeting, aides recalled he said they should shoot migrants in the ...

There ultimately would be a vote but probably not the kind of extended trial that we saw for president clinton. i think the democrats are going to say that's not enough, we want a fair trial, we want to really examine this. so there's going to be a fight over that. but he's not going to be able to what i call turning merrick garland into a verb, merrick garland the impeachment articles. >> anni carney, you invoked the term guard rails ahead of a forthcoming book about this president and the border. they write, privately the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water...

Wall with a trench stocked with snakes and alligators. he wanted wall electrified with spikes on top that would pierce human flesh. after publicly suggesting that the soldiers shoot migrants when they threw walks, he quickly back off when aides said that was illegal. he then quickly said they should shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. that's not allowed either, they told him. he said you're making me look like an idiot, he shouted to aides. i ran on this. it's my issue. dana? >> he did run on it. it is his issue. and, first of all, they had been working on this book they have for imm...