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Incumbent senators. >> this whole -- it's a crucial question for him. they're trying to make this about the wall, but how big is this wall issue for donald trump right now? he's trying to say mexico will pay for it eventually. this is a promise he made every day. >> i think it's going to catch up to him. if we're going to pay for the wall, what are we going to take away from and at some point we're going to take away from things that effect people that suppt donald trump and that's going to crystalli for people. the wall is his trojan horse in the sense that he has said that he's going to prot...

Nick mulvaney say we'll give you health care money in exchange but that isn't really winning democrats over so far. >> april, is there a deal here that can be made to prevent the shutdown and who blinks first? do the democrats sign on for funding for the wall or does the president sign on without funding for it. >> the democrats are saying no way on the wall because of the cost. many of the fiscal conservatives, there is a major concern with the price of the wall. it's not just democrats. it's the fiscal conservatives that are very concerned with this exploding budget that this country is view...

The border wall and in this spending bill mr. trump is asking for $1.4 billion to build that wall. what happened to mexico paying for the wall? i know people laugh when i ask this question and they think it is a set up. it is not. has anyone on capitol hill explained what happened to that plan? >> well, this piece is really common sense. it doesn't take any news analyzing for this one. you cannot tell another country what they are going to do. just, i mean, even when you are running for president. and just with that alone, that raised the hair on the back of heads of many mexican officials and...

Happening. lauren: and paul ryan might be more inclined to deal with infrastructure. i want to ask you about immigration reform. do you see that president trump, this is one. things he campaigned on. do you see him saying to congress, here is the ultimatum. you want to deal with daca on the dreamers here raised in the united states you want to deal on them. fund my border wall, show the money. do you think he'll do that. >> the border wall and i don't think he'll ignore chain migration, that's become a massive problem in our country ap it's sort of a shady way to continue to import people who ...

Poo-pooed the notion of building a wall on the southern border. the president made a big part of its campaign. if he ties it to the daca thing, are democrats willing to go along? >> i don't see any evidence that the democrats are going to go along with the wall. i think there's more evidence that what trump really wants is added border security and something that could be called a "wall." the question is, will he find a way to save face? at the same time, i think democrats will hold quite a strong on the wall issue. they will want daca for sure. without 60 votes, none of this is going anywhere...