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Reporter security. is this exchange rate too high for bipartisan support? and should the president anticipate democratic lawmakers to add, how much of the $25 billion wall system is mexico going to pay for? >> right! the president has been pretty consistent in terms of mexico paying for the wall. saying that they will pay for them some form through nafta or tax in the future. right here, right now, the fact is the us government will have to pay for the wall. >> how will that fit with his base? >> right! it will be difficult. i think the president has said consistently, he will find some way th...

There was a democrat in the white house and they had a chance and had promised to fix this issue i did absolutely nothing on it. >> harris: 's has been one of those third rail issues that nobody has wanted to touch because the truth of the matter is, you do have to do all those other things on the border. even democrats know this. they may not be a fan of the wall as they say because it's 14th century or whatever but when i corrected some i've interviewed, it's a wall system, border security, other things. we talk about chain migration and visa lottery system. we know that india's reform compr...

So yes, that date is out there but we have a little more room than that would suggest. >> melissa: can you give us a sense, you talked about talks already going on. can you give us a sense of what those conversations are like both in tone and content at all? >> it is mutually -- i'm speaking of the republican side but i have spoken to democrats, too. it is respectful. it is an understanding that if we go beyond the parameters of the four pillars we'll lose everything. i notice that democrats are speaking about border security once more. if you will, going back to where they were a few years ag...

>> it's very important, quite frankly they were very encouraging discussions taking place between democrats and republicans. we want to see the senate returned to its regular order. we listen to each other and we compromise. compromise is not a bad word. we need to listen to each other if we are going to get that accomplished. many democrats and many republicans, we all agree a government shutdown makes no sense. we need to debate these issues and resolve these issues. >> harris: i hear what you're saying and it sounds a lot like what republican leadership has said, we are all going to get alo...

Four prong approach. how is it bend today, your leadership and chuck schumer says i'm taking the money i previously said it we would give off the table, what do you say about that? >> quite frankly the wall has limited value from the point of view of keeping our borders safe. >> harris: i set wall system and i quoted with the white house is saying. >> democrats support border security. >> harris: why take the money off the table? >> there is need for a better technology, democrats want to keep our borders safe. border security is clearly on the table. >> harris: when schumer says i am taking t...