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Hyperbole, clearly, an applause line at rallies. >> it was actually a line on a website that nobody was applauding for. >> right. but that's not from him. >> there it is. >> look, i don't think any serious -- i don't think any serious person believed that mexico was going to hand us a gigantic check with "wall" in the memo. you don't pay for the wall up-front. >> you don't think thousands of people who heard him say and who themselves chanted "mexico is going to pay for it" and read that website in which he says it will be a one-time payment, you think people just don't think that he is making...

Will pay for it. i think that's very viable. >> he lied about it today saying he never said that when he does, he did? >> you would have to ask him. but i think the most sensible way to get them to pay for it is a tax remit tense. i think that's a very painless way. >> it doesn't concern you that the president just lies like water flowing down a river? >> no, hold on. i think you need to be careful when you say lies. when he said mexico was going to write a check, that was hyperbole, clearly, an applause line at rallies. >> it was actually a line on a website that nobody was applauding for. >>...

Theyen are not going anywhere. it's about 2.2 million people. he did not win wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania by saying we will repair the fence in arizona, and by the way, we are going to work with nancy pelosi on taking care ofof the dreamers. >> sean: do you agree with me that if he makes those concessions and does not get the funding for the wall up front, he is never getting it? >> never getting it compared to then wall, the rays act, e-verify, it has to be part of any deal. he will not have more leverage lending have rightht now. if he says, i'm willing to hear you out, we are not rounding ...

Congressional leaders might be reacting to all this. >> reporter: well, with some corn certain. there are a number of republicans who don't want to move forward with the wall or are concerned about paying for this wall up front, billions of dollars e potentially initially and also cutting off trade with one of the u.s.'s biggest trading partners. i talked to senator john cornyn, the number two republican who also represents texas. he said this is a marriage between the u.s. and mexico that needs to work. we need to work on that marriage, we can't afford to get divorced. that's probably what yo...