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Republicans. we just went through a government shutdown of your creation. who is going to be held accountable for that? >> well, joining me now is one of those democrats you just heard, from the number two democrat in the united states senate. it's dick durbin of illinois. senator durbin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> it's good to be here. >> i know you guys are hopefully going to go solve this problem after the show is over, but let me ask you this. why -- why draw the line in the sand now? it seems like to the average american you guys are fighting over how long the window of negotiat...

Larger changes to the immigration law in the daca negotiations? >> the president made it clear on the january 9th meeting, he agreed with us there should be two phases. let's deal with the problem which he created on september 5th by eliminating daca, deadline march 5th. just a few weeks away. let's sol that have problem now and not all the problems of immigration. and, yes, we did include a provision related to family reunification which breaks my heart. we have said -- >> only applying to this population. >> that's right. >> they say it should apply entire immigration system. >> you're going...

The empathy in my party? people, the number one important thing in america when somebody is asking for a presidential candidate's support is, do you care about -- does he care about me? how do we tell 50 million people that we care about them when there is not a single word of empathy about the fate of these million people? >> can i say the trump base in my view would be very happy with a daca deal and an immigration wallen forcement thing. they'd be happy, but it's more than they'd be happy. the middle would be happy, centrists would be impressed. that's the way to play politics. it's odd. so...

Reservists whose training was cancelled this weekend, who have to pay their get here and their travel costs back home so the president is engaged in finding out what are the impacts of this. he's on the find trying to find a resolution to it and he had members over to the white house a week ago in a bipartisan bicameral fashion to get past this impasse. >> part of the issue seems to be that people come away from these meetings not sure what president trump stands for. let me -- here's mitch mcconnell just i think three days ago on the issue of daca and immigration. >> looking for something tha...

Authorize lots of money that never happens so we need to clarify that but we see progress. on our side they said they want the 690,000 daca population expanded. senator durbin made the case saying many people did not register and they should not be held harmful. we've been willing to expand that population and there's progress happening here which leads us to, chuck, why are we shutting down the government? >> i guess then the graham/durbin say they put this offer out here and chuck schumer saying, why not say, okay, seems like we have the parameters for a deal. democrats are willing. you guys...