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May never see their kids or parents again. >> that's the human side of this, why there's outrage still going around the nation. you mention being an attorney. this is a crash course in a kind of law school for the nation, but not the good kind because everyone is sitting around their dining room table talking about how this works. it is understandable that some people feel given problems in the country, given poverty and everything we owe our citizens, the question comes up what do we owe other people. yet this is aonstitutional democracy that has due process. i want to play sarah huckabee san...

Oval office, is above the law. >> you say no one is above the law. this goes to an interesting point which you understand and i think viewers have gathered. the immigration power is second probably only to war making power for an area where the chief executive gets wide, wide latitude, traditionally in the courts, as you know. yet in the travel ban and on sanctuary cities and border separation policy, we have seen this president, even with the wide latitude appear to go beyond it. what does it tell you, what is the significance of the fact that this president, donald trump, seems to get into s...

Missiles has usurped some of the congress's exclusive war-making power. we now have a president who knows nothing of the constitution and knows nothing of our history, and by all appearances, arrived in the job surprised that congress had any power over him at all or that the courts had any power over him. and so 241 years after the declaration of independence, 228 years after the constitution, how are the founding documents holding up against what might be the only president who has never read them? joining us now, joy reid, the host of am joy weekends on msnbc, and joan walsh, national affai...

Congress's exclusive war-making power. we now have a president who knows nothing of the constitution and knows nothing of our history, and by all appearances, arrived in the job surprised that congress had any power over him at all or that the courts had any power over him. and so 241 years after the declaration of independence, 228 years after the constitution, how are the founding documents holding up against what might be the only president who has never read them? joining us now, joy reid, the host of am joy weekends on msnbc, and joan walsh, national affairs correspondent at the nation an...

Look what they're not doing on voter incht d. laws out of north carolina. i'm telling you, he has lost every single significant case there. and i'm not so sure they're looking for any chance they can to push back against a president that does not respect judicial authority. >> and professor terley believes the law is still on trump's side on this. do you believe that, too, when it hits the supreme court? >> there's no doubt that it gives the present's huge immigration powers, broad and often powerful. this is one of those cases where the ban is somewhat unusual so it's hard to predict what the...