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Wednesday, the largest raid in syria since the 2019 operation that took out baghdadi. abu bakr al-baghdadi. intel gathering on the raid ramped up last fall. biden being briefed and detailed five days before christmas. in the wake of the raid, pentagon spokesperson john kirby warning isis still has the ability to attack the u.s. mainland. joining me now. cnn counter terrorism analyst. good to see you. this would have been the biggest news, right, that we have been covering at one point but we have all this craziness going around. it's still a big deal, so let's talk about it. we were getting so...

White house officials said they didn't know what he was talking about, when other reporting suggests this has been on his mind recently. i think his gut instinct when it comes to america's footprint in the world, he doesn't want us out there meddling, he doesn't want our troops all over the place. at the meeting at the pentagon, they explained to him why we have troops in asia, japan and these other places, i think trump has this isolationist instinct. so i'm not surprised what he's thinking about with respect to syria right now. >> there's a couple of ironic things to that, because of course ...

Areas, keep them from being useful to isis, and "the wall street journal" reported yesterday that in fact the president's frozen that as well. >> exactly. real quick, ryan, because you brought up scaramucci, we saw hope hicks, another communications director of this white house, leave this week. is there anybody who could be an effective communications director? >> well, i mean, the issue is that trump is his own communications director. his whole life has been handling his own press. famously in the '80s, he used to call reporters and pretend to be his own spokesperson, assuming an identity. ...

Flynn-stones. now the question will be are they getting rid of the mcmaster employees. they'll need their own name. >> yes, i was waiting to here. >> there's so much turnover that you have these funny names in this white house. a unit of time in this white house of ten days is known as a scaramucci because that's how long the communications director lastinge lasted. so the flynn-stones lasted several scaramuccis. >> let's bring it back to the impact of some of these turnovers and the issue being that the president doesn't always follow the guidance of the people around him. on thursday before ...

Of syria, warning isis could reemerge if the u.s. leaves. there seems to be a disconnect between what president trump is saying and his own team's assessment. >> yeah, he's really gone back and forth about this idea of what the u.s. presence should be in that region, sometimes arguing that obama pulled out of iraq too soon and led to the creation of isis, other times arguing that we shouldn't have anything to do with syria or iraq. you know, when he gives these speeches, these big public speeches, they often are a sort of unfiltered version of what he's been telling other people around him in ...