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Campaign ahead, carol lee, national political reporter i'm like hart/mondale, right here at nbc news, eugene scott, stephanie cutter, and gore/bradley on the other hand there was obama/clinton. >> yes republican strategist brad todd. none of those races mirror each i probably could not have been other. >> that's right. >> every candidate is chosen for picked better people to have for particular point in time and this and guess what, we did, we knew against whoever the incumbent what we were doing is, who is best to beat that i'm going to start with our two person partisans here you know, i thi...

Unlikely candidacy has caught pull something out hers in the polls. you know, how she performs in the third fund-raising quarter but like i said, the big story will be significant. is less about who's losing and but she's really faded into the more of the separation we're starting to see at the top when you combine the first and background as elizabeth warren second choices of democrats, has had this surge. it's a two-person race, warren >> absolutely. i was speaking with voters who and biden. both are rising. attended the rally last night in the separation is also very new york notable. warre...

And if that generates enough turnout for us or if we pick who we think is best to beat donald trump. >> eugene, i hope making a "washington post" person break down a "new york times" idea but alex burns says warren has her own populism in some ways if biden is the one arguing a third argument between the two populist arguments i want to play the biden sound, guys, here that we found from august 20th. and ask yourself -- i want you guys to decide ask yourself is the democratic primary electorate want this take a listen. >> if we defeat donald trump and don't give him another four years, you're ...

Someone like elizabeth warren, if the trump folks -- she's gaining their attention. she's had their attention in the past but clearly the enthusiasm has sparked their interest but they have a whole playbook for how to run against elizabeth warren and see joe biden as tougher at least on paper. >> yeah, i think it's a reminder of what the main conversation is right now on the left, and it's about the future direction of the democratic party in terms of values and world view. that actually is something apart from whether or not trump can be beaten, but what is it that people on the left want to ...

Biden right now? who do you chase, eugene >> i would imagine many of these campaigns are trying to figure out ways to pick op voters from both how do you do that with the same message, because they're speaking to two very different groups. >> and without alienating voters. >> indeed. >> warren is -- the trump campaign is going after biden. biden is his own worst enemy in some ways. >> right now he's doing warrenes work for her. >> yes. >> that's the best thing warren has is that. the question is who's going to do biden's work for him on warren thank you all. that's all we have for tonight we'l...