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Giving important testimony but there is no cross-examination of her from somebody with the different point of view. most records look at that said that is unfair and illegitimate pride that is the problem may have thought the speakers dropped due to the republicans are going to be on the committee. the other problem i have is this is all captivating to always in the washington bubble, the democrats are sending a message this is the most important issue facing the country. a lot of americans are having to choose between gas and food parsing this out the most important issue to me. where are the...

Track for you with him and that you know when he served in congress? >> there is no evolution. i think the evolution -- he rose to the occasion. he never rose to the occasion. there was always a pretty file human being. he understood what he was voting for what he was destroying, when he was in congress. there's nothing that surprise you about that, but because we're getting to this washington bubble, where we believe somehow, someone gets a title, they become better. i think a lot of people were making mistakes, not mistakes, excuse the term. mark meadows is a horrible human being. he has bee...

Because states are going to reverse their electoral college votes. these are, these are conclusions that you could draw only if you were donald trump. >> you have been saying for months that trump's political base is shrinking, that you are looking at data that is telling you that. and so i wonder what you think, because republicans, they clearly do not think that. i think it's fair to say a lot of these congressional republicans probably have a pretty good pulse of their constituencies and where they are politically and ideologically and whether they support trump or not. and i wonder how you...

They are still absorbed with trump. >> some? it seems like a majority. >> no, actually, i've got a poll coming out monday. i don't want to step on my own news, but i think it shows people are moving away from trump, continue to move away from trump. many of his actions, including his criticism of mike pence and what he did on january the 6th are reducing his support among republicans. i think we need more republicans to step up and say so. >> house republicans are building essentially a midterm strategy around trump being the leader of the party. they are not -- they're not believing anything ...

Stone wall trump is building or let it happened. today was the first foray. what happens next is very important, do they go to court and get an order to compel lewandowski to try to testifying do they threaten to hold witnesses in contempt as matt suggested? do they up the ante? you know, having said that, though, nicolle, it is worth noting essentially through the stone wall, corey lewandowski basically acknowledged that the president of the united states asked him to do something that was obstructing justice. that should be the headline here that's a pretty significant revelation not news, b...