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We actually are? and judging by some of his supporters, i mean he thinks they're pretty stupid, that they'll believe anything he says even though it is so plainly at odds with that phone call. remember those magic words, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> right. >> what's interesting to me, don is while the president is still sticking to his defense that this was a beautiful and perfect call, there are some republicans who are not prepared to fully imbibe all of the kool-aid. so there was just a "washington post" story tonight saying that some senate republicans are trying out a new...

White house issue and that is that they can't get their stories straight. they can't decide whether or not this didn't occur, there was no quid pro quo, military aid was not in any way linked to the political investigations or if it was perfectly fine and it all happened but it wasn't corrupt. this is a legitimate thing for the president of the united states to be doing. and so the president himself has been vacillating on this and so it is no surprise that aides like mulvaney that go out and give a statement on any particular day of the week whenever the president then realizes that it is a d...

Sondland, the ambassador to the eu gets angry when bolton is trying to stop the appointment with the ukraine president. and he actually shouts out the quid pro quo in the meeting. we have to have a meeting because giuliani said they get a meeting if they do the investigation. of course, this is the same sondland who said he didn't know if the president was talking about a real quid pro quo, but he was telling -- >> the quid pro quo wasn't corrupt. >> we have the quid pro quo and that's when bolton shuts it down, talks about the drug deal and tells fiona hill to immediately go talk to the lawye...

And then the stonewalling was all an effort to muzzle these people so this probe wouldn't get the facts from them. the ambassador i mentioned, he is also reportedly planning to testify he worked with giuliani could get the ukrainians to publicly commit to this same ukraine plot, including the idea that they would release a special statement about the very biden-linked company that trump wanted investigated by name, and that was basically in exchange for a promised white house visit. one source saying, quote, it was a quid pro quo, but not a corrupt one. in bribery, just so we're all clear, the...

With bob mcdonnell, the virginia republican governor and said that he didn't -- he wasn't corrupt because he was just doing donors favors but it wasn't an official act. >> julie: there is a slippery slope when it comes to politicians receiving any kind of gifts whatsoever especially when they're up for reelection but politically there is a lot at play here. he is a democrat. if he gets convicted doesn't necessarily mean he will resign. that's another story. if he is unseated this could be a huge win for republicans who failed in the senate to pass healthcare. this could have huge ramifications...