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Colleagues a week or so ago who was in poland near a border crossing. seeing buses and trucks and cars and literally thousands ukrainians fleeing the country, families in tow. this colleague of yours didn't see a single man who wasn't turning right back around and going in to the fight. and there were many women doing the same thing is. once they made sure that their children were safe, turning back around to take up arms. the sheer bravery of it is inspiring. so there's contact between the armed forces clearly. but there's a lot of just average ukrainian citizens of all stripes that are fight...

It did feel like what i would imagine to be sort of going round and round in a washing machine, things pinging everywhere. it was impossible -- i don't even know how i wasn't hit and it was impossible to think that you weren't going to be shot. it was liz cheney like a guarantee. >> i was absolutely convinced i was going to die, i didn't think there was any chance the amount of rounds that were coming into that car they are going to continue to miss. you kept seeing sparks flying off, tracers going. what really marked it out from other ambushes i've been in in the past and i have been shot up ...

So we started shouting that we were press, et cetera, and then the shooting -- and the shooting then increased, in fact, definitely increased. you can hear it in the tape. it was almost as if they decided, right, we really are going to finish this lot off. and i have to say being in the back of the car i was just watching the wind screen disappear, holes appear in the roof. >> it did feel like being in a washing machine with bullets. of course, the car wasn't turning but what i mean by that is the bullets were everywhere and although the camera only -- bear in mind the camera is showing one an...

And once in a lifetime moments. two tickets to nascar! yes! find rewards like these and so many more in the xfinity app. my next two guests know all too well the dangers of covering the war in ukraine. on february 28th they were part of a team from sky news traveling trying to drive back to kyiv when the car was ambushed. they were minutes and minutes of bullets rattling the vehicle. stuart ramsay was wounded, dominique van heerden his senior producer was with him trying to get help. so they sat down with me a month later now that ramsay is recovered, gone through a

A good three, four hours. i would say and of course stuart can correct me if he thinks differently but i would say the fighting outside was at least half the time, at least half the time that we were in the garage and it was intense. in many ways being in the car we felt like we could do something for ourselves which was get out. in the warehouse we were very much sitting ducks and it felt completely out of our hands. i think that that was the scariest bit. for me the most terrifying bit was being in that garage not really knowing what might happen next. with those fire fights continuous going...