So the corporate world must do that in this regard, brian. >> one of our intelligence veterans, malcolm nance, watched putin's remarks and said classic asset management, classic misdirect when he said why would we be gathering intelligence on a man like this, meaning trump. shawn, my second question for you has to do with your colleagues. this has been your life's work. how do you sum up the hit that members of the u.s. intelligence community have taken in the past few days and weeks? >> i think it's tremendous. when you look at criticism levied, these people are strong, they've got thick skin...