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trump failed to do and what that says about his mind set. was this a ray yacht that got out of control or something he welcomed, which why, according to many, he did not try to stop it. specifically 187 minutes that went as this insurrection raged, as people were hurt, as officers were beaten on camera, and trump sat in the white house and would not take action, would not intervene, would not do things that really mattered like immediately use his power to activate the national guard, nor use his indirect power, what is sometimes called the soft power. the people listened to you, the...

I wonder as we look forward here because you and many of your colleagues have talked about impeachment being such a solemn process. sort of an emergency tool you use only in the most unique circumstances here. i just wonder, what do you think the lesson here for future democratic or republican presidents is in response to impeachment as they saw president trump refuse to cooperate, refuse house subpoenas? do you think that's a dangerous precedent going forward? >> well, i think both ways are a dangerous precedent. it's dangerous to reach to impeachment without doing a full-blown watergate proc...

The democrats have to present this case that is built on hearsay upon hearsay upon hearsay. this isn't the court, but it matters because this is a process where the american people want fairness. >> neil: was it fair then, because democrats immediately pounced on it and i respect your opinion, for the president to intervene as he did today? maybe because he was rightly offended and took on brands to a lot of the stuff that he she was accusing, i'm talking about mise tweeted what he tweeted about. and gave a line of questioning that provided ammunition to the very folks he wants to shut up? >> ...

Offense, right? >> know it would not. the president would make the case if he was allowed i believe the president would make the case that we were vetting this new government and i don't want to take american taxpayer dollars and divvied them out around the world with no idea where it is going and i want to make sure it's going to the causes that we are supporting that help the united states of america and our national security. that's the argument that president would make if he was able to make it. >> neil: congressman thank you for taking the time. it's always good catching up. how long doe...

View -- >> neil: by the way you could make the way argument is that if that was your goal -- >> she was supported by president obama when lit we look back at her testimony 2016 we did not see her making the case for that military aid that was so important that donald trump, not barack obama, ended up delivering. she wanted to speak truth to power may be a comment about hunter biden in 2016 -- >> neil: you raise a very good point. we have this behind closed door testimony happening and we had plans for testimony next week. i have a feeling this is going to drag on a while. some democrats want t...