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What's also interesting was there was no anger there. it was almost -- certainly emotion there. it was personal. >> i'm glad you're pointing that out. she prepared for it as we all accept. but the stars had to align for the moment to happen. then when it did, her tone and her execution was perfect. >> perfect. yeah. you know, she was very -- it was almost like it was regrettable and she couldn't believe this is what he was saying. so, you know, we'll see what it does. we know he's been doing well amongst african-americans. she hasn't been doing well with african-americans. maybe this is a turn...

Congress did it. he said go slow. he said he didn't like it. he said he believed putin. come on, matt. this is not strong footing for you on that point. >> if you look at the actions -- but he expelled the diplomats. he did more than any other american president -- >> he didn't do more. obama did more. he dragged his fight. congress brought it to the table. that's why he acted. >> obama was silent, weak and soft as russia was engaging in elections. >> those are adjectives but the actions are he expelled more people. he was too soft on the initial interference. obama should have rang the alarm ...

Some ways hasn't worked. and that's something that john kelly presumably you would want to adjust. >> there are several positions that have not been subject to turnover or the security clearances. they just haven't been filled from the beginning. in your article you say the bucket director is doing double duty as the acting head of the consumer protection agency. the personnel director is also overseeing the offices of political affairs and public liaison. how does all this affect the presidency? >> look at the state department, you have three undersecretary positions, ten assistant secretary ...

Who you're going to work with and people who know these fact because the fbi reports them, would know at this point this man, we're talking about would different people, but this man beat women. you don't need due process when the fbi tells you this person beat women. today the threat index, to use a term, is kind of crazy. it goes back to one thing that he said, that rachel brand left her job because walmart is the opportunity of a lifetime. her job now at justice might be driving her crazy and i understand there might be emotional or even physical costs to it. but if you stand in the breach ...

Palin in a new pac ad. has her moment passed? >> clearly not. >> but in terms. being a convequeen maker, does still have that power? >> it's hard to say. she clearly has a good following. she knows how to get the conversation going. she backs candidates who often are insurgents in primaries. and she has a decent record. she has some notable losses, but she has successes too. >> which is surprising because she's so humble about her losses. >> but yes, she is a player, primarily she talk about her all the time. >> you notice you saw ted cruz in that video, who is a rabble-rouser inside the halls...