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There was some -- there was one witness or two witnesses came in and testified in a confidential setting, not classified, confidential, on things tangential to this. we never went into any of this stuff. >> i want to bring in the rest of our panelists. >> congressman, is it possible that the fbi did not conduct a totally by-the-books operation? >> based on, well, i think they conducted a totally by-the-books operation and the burden of proof is on anyone to say they haven't. and there is no evidence of that at all. >> and you've seened the documents? >> i have. >> so why do you think devin nun...

Prosecutors that have been doing this for a long time. >> shepard: jeffery, based on who prosecutor mueller has hired, who he's charged the, who is cooperating with him, can you take all of the things that you know about this case and get some sort of idea about where robert mueller is going with it or is that too speculative? >> you know, normally it would be speculative. investigations, federal investigations, you don't know what is happening. however here there has been -- i don't want to say leaks but a lot has been revealed who has talked to mueller. we know the latest example today, whic...

>> i am aware. >> tucker: you put up as your evidence, this piece of propaganda from the linden larouche new letter. why did you put a scientology source? do you really think that's a legitimate news source? >> you are the editor-in-chief of the of "the daily caller," for a decade called into question barack obama's legitimacy as a president, based on -- >> tucker: i'm not saying that. >> are you saying you are an illegitimate journalist? you had some pretty racist, terrible junk on that web site. >> tucker: name one. >> lets google it, there is a lot. since 1987, donald --

Bayrock, which is a company which invested in trump soho which is backed by russian interests. so the facts that, i mean, if donald trump wants to show his taxes so we can actually do this deep dive, that's aold tire song, we've been there done that. but to sit here and say there are no ties and you don't know anything of it, i mean, michael flynn was just in moscow last week. >> based on -- >> michael flynn was in moscow last year. he was in moscow last year at a gala as a guest of vladimir putin. >> well, under those standards anybody who has anything to do with russia donald trump is suppos...

Little bit more biting. that's less warm. the contrast is a big one between the two of them. but if we're voting for president based on who's funny or not, maybe we should elect larry david. >> joe biden might hit all of these buttons. obviously in polls, he trails clinton. against donald trump, he beat donald trump, he does better than hillary clinton does in the polls. and also would beat ben carson. is biden still the magic wand the democrats need? >> i'm pretty skeptical of general election polls. particularly when one of the people polled in this case, the vice president, is somebody who'...