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Now deciding they can't use him so they've done this backwards, they've crossed themselves up and left themselves without a viable way to charge matt gaetz. >> elie, i don't know if you know the answer to this or if there is an answer to this but could they rely on the young women, the underaged women he was supposedly somehow involved with? >> sure, they could rely on victim testimony and other testimony, financial records, phone records, anything that prosecutors would rely on in any case but it was clear that they intended at some point or hoped joel greenberg would be the keystone of the c...

Attorney pat cipollone and phil and mike pence who all four of them we know have already gone in and asserted some sort of privilege of questions they were asked by prosecutors. this has been happening in private. you mentioned at the lead in, grand jury proceedings are secret in nature and this is really the first window we've gotten into what is going on behind closed doors as the trump team and justice department prosecutors are trying to convince a judge that either attorney privilege or executive privilege applies and should shield some testimony that the justice department wants and brin...

Needle. they've been tap dancing in court but they will be at a time next week that deadline hits and they're going to have to commit or change course one way or another. >> we'll see. e elie thank you. american diplomats and service members have been experiencicing the same symptom but no one can explain w what causes them. dr. sanjay gupta joins us to discuss the medical mystery of havana syndrome, next. but at the end of the day there's nothing like being... a gold-owner. visit invest.gold to see why gold is everyone's asset. people remember ads with young people having a good time. so to...

Yes. e elie, listen, given everything we know about how this committee operates, does it seem they want these phone records of kimberly guilfoyle and eric trump for a specific reason? >> i'm sure they want it for a specific reason, don. this committee has been very strategic in what they've done. those are two very specific individuals to request the phone records of. they want to know for reasons that we don't entirely understand right now, but they want to know who eric trump with spoke with at key times and who kimberly guilfoyle spoke with at key times. the phone records will show them exa...

Of the day strong arguments for not testifying. but so long as the republicans have the house of representatives in their sights in a few months, this could all go by the wayside with the exception, of course, of what's going to happen with this information in the justice department when congress hands it over to the justice department, which i have no doubt is engaging in ongoing, as we know, ongoing investigations through the fbi on its own. and to your earlier point, yes, it's getting to the president. as elie suggests, these people were close to the president. the question is who talked to...