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Bill, you go first. >> well, look, having worked in the health care thing last year, there are enormous waste of money in medicare the way it's delivered, the duplication of docs, the duplication of procedur procedures. >> do it, we talk about we don't do it, and built into the health care law is this panel that republicans want to get rid of, if they see too much overbilling, they can move in on a metropolitan or doc and do it. >> here's what i would do. i was with ronald reagan. they put together the social security commission. i didn't like the results of it, but clearly you had to give som...

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>> let's talk about that, as we explained will, look at the approval ratings. 29%, 38%, 43% for these republican governors. that looks horrible. is it possible it's just a temporary blip and they'll go back up, or like george w. bush, once they fall, they can't get back up? >> well, i think that all of these bad ratings are rooted in policy, not just personality. these governors came in based on pretty effective campaigns in 2010. the problem was they didn't tell people what they were sincerely and seriously goods going to do. as they've started to act as governors, they are becoming increasin...

The democrats going to do? they might be poised do what this they do best, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. today joe biden resumed talks aimed at reaching a budget deal before a potential default, and he tales talking about over a trillion in cuts, but other democratic leaders have said medicare is on the table in these negotiations. does that make sense? i'm not so sure. why would you do that? you have them on the ropes. why would you let them off? a lot of democrats say it's okay, because this would be medicare reform, not medicare cuts. now, is that a real distinction? and what does...

Had to choose between signs or 23409, of course i would sign it. >> they all get asked, put on the record, but as pat said, there will be a different plan probably by the time the election rolls around. does this hurt them? or do they get beyond it, because at some point the white house makes a deal? >> first of all, i deny the premise. what makes you they they're going to get a plan done in the next 12 months. this will be the issue. it was the issue in -- and every candidate will have to answer that. >> you've heard bill. let me tell you, if barack obama, president of the united states, does...