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They didn't get anything out of these meetings on their word. >> that we know of. we don't know whether deals were made. >> we literally don't know what came out if anything from these meetings. they are saying they got nothing. we don't know that to be true. >> i don't mean this necessarily to be something for the campaign. i mean something for their own personal financial benefit. i think that's more likely than actually the campaign. >> when you are trying to follow this -- and chuck touched on this last week when i was on the panel -- it's very hard to keep it all straight. what is robert ...

Nobody else says, would it be great to cooperate are hurussia. i strongly believe that a lot of these allegations floating around are the enemies. senator mccain discrediting not only putin but trump and making it impossible. that would be bad for america. >> is it worth having a new detente. >> i would like to coat what steven cohen said. we don't know that putin went to crimea, we literally don't know. he's somebody that refused to believe that russia invaded foreign country aies and russia hacking other countries. his refusal to believe that is part of a pattern. i think you will find and i...

Senators such as mccain discredited not only putin but trump in making any new steps possible. >> what do you say? is there a prospect of a knew detente. >> i would like to quote something from march 2014. he said we won't know that putin went into crimea. we literally don't know. so he's somebody who has been repeatedly refusing to believe that russia has invaded foreign countries for the past two years. so his refusal to believe that i think is also part of a pattern. i think you'll find if you look at not just what the cia says, but what several independent groups have said, you can liar at...

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